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                    <title>1stadam1stantiochian on Gregory of Nyssa on 1 Cor 15:28</title>
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<strong>DavidFord said </strong><br />
"have an opinion or a point of view?"<br />
I have lots of opinions.<br />
"favor Jesus’ words over any other narrative"<br />
<span style="color: #993300"><strong>Is it OK to draw a parallel between Jesus and a lifted up serpent?</strong></span><br />
John 3:14 (KJV)<br />
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And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,<br />
even so must the Son of man be lifted up:<br />
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<p><span style="color: #993300"><strong>Absolutely</strong></span>, and that is my point, he himself made the comparison!</p>
<p>When you look strictly at the words that came <span style="color: #993300"><strong>directly</strong> </span>out of Jesus’s own mouth in the Gospels, he completely rejects the passive, sacrificial “Lamb” identity. He never identifies with animals meant for the slaughterhouse or the butcher’s knife.</p>
<p>Apart from the <strong>Hen</strong> trying to gather her chicks under her wings, Jesus only explicitly identifies himself with <strong>one other animal</strong>:</p>
<p><strong>The Living Serpent of Healing</strong></p>
<p>In the Gospel of John, Jesus names his own cosmic function by identifying with the Serpent of the wilderness:</p>
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<em>“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up.”</em> (<strong><b>** you do not have permission to see this link **</b></strong>)</p>
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<p>Dave, please read my essey, because I have explained everything :</p>
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<div>You'll be on my side, I bet.</div>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 15:46:17 -0400</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>"have an opinion or a point of view?"<br />
I have lots of opinions.</p>
<p>"favor Jesus’ words over any other narrative"<br />
Is it OK to draw a parallel between Jesus and a lifted up serpent?</p>
<p>John 3:14 (KJV)<br />
<b>** you do not have permission to see this link **</b><br />
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,<br />
even so must the Son of man be lifted up:</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 16:58:11 -0400</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have already written a lot about the Bread of Life being prioritized over any other food</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 16:52:22 -0400</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Affector, "Harmagedon"<br />
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<p>Theocracy, "30 Pieces of Silver"<br />
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 16:50:32 -0400</pubDate>
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<p><strong>DavidFord said </strong><br />
"What do you think?"<br />
It's all fine by me.</p>
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<p>Don't you have an opinion or a point of view<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]-->?</p>
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<p>
"their perception God is as lion or moth, when in fact it is wrong to identify our God with such terms"<br />
Is it OK to liken Jesus to bread?<br />
John 6:35 (CEV)<br />
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Jesus replied:<br />
I am the bread that gives life!<br />
No one who comes to me will ever be hungry.<br />
No one who has faith in me will ever be thirsty.<br />
  </p>
</blockquote>
<p>We, as Christians, have to favor<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--> Jesus' words over any other narrative.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 16:50:06 -0400</pubDate>
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                    <title>Stephen on Gregory of Nyssa on 1 Cor 15:28</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 13:04:00 -0400</pubDate>
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                    <title>DavidFord on Gregory of Nyssa on 1 Cor 15:28</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>"What do you think?"<br />
It's all fine by me.</p>
<p>"their perception God is as lion or moth, when in fact it is wrong to identify our God with such terms"<br />
Is it OK to liken Jesus to bread?</p>
<p>John 6:35 (CEV)<br />
<b>** you do not have permission to see this link **</b><br />
Jesus replied:<br />
I am the bread that gives life!<br />
No one who comes to me will ever be hungry.<br />
No one who has faith in me will ever be thirsty.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 04:59:47 -0400</pubDate>
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                    <title>1stadam1stantiochian on Gregory of Nyssa on 1 Cor 15:28</title>
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<strong>DavidFord said </strong><br />
"Peter’s epistle states that the devil is a lion"<br />
Is it bad to compare God to a:<br />
lion?<br />
moth?<br />
Hosea 5 (NIV)<br />
<b>** you do not have permission to see this link **</b><br />
9 Ephraim will be laid waste<br />
on the day of reckoning.<br />
Among the tribes of Israel<br />
I proclaim what is certain.<br />
10 Judah’s leaders are like those<br />
who move boundary stones.<br />
I will pour out my wrath on them<br />
like a flood of water.<br />
11 Ephraim is oppressed,<br />
trampled in judgment,<br />
intent on pursuing idols.<br />
12 I am like a moth to Ephraim,<br />
like rot to the people of Judah.<br />
...<br />
14 For I will be like a lion to Ephraim,<br />
like a great lion to Judah.<br />
I will tear them to pieces and go away;<br />
I will carry them off, with no one to rescue them.<br />
15 Then I will return to my lair<br />
until they have borne their guilt<br />
and seek my face—<br />
in their misery<br />
they will earnestly seek me.”<br />
  </p>
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<p>I think that is their perception God is as lion or moth, when in fact it is wrong to identify our God with such terms. The devil is as a lion, and the moth has no authority in the heavenly kingdom.</p>
<p>The lion is the devil according to <span class="T286Pc"><b>** you do not have permission to see this link **</b></span>, and the moth is the false god. Or, if you prefer that is their [wrong] perception only. What do you think? For me, it was interesting when you offered moth to replace lion, here:</p>
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<strong>DavidFord said </strong><br />
"It is not if your god is the devil"<br />
If one's God _isn't_ "the devil,"<br />
is it bad to compare that God to a:<br />
lion?<br />
moth? </p>
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<p>It is bad from my perspective, but HOSEA is pointing out theirs.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2026 08:47:59 -0400</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>"you think the lion is automatically better"<br />
Not that I know of.<br />
What exact words of mine are you viewing?</p>
<p>"if we look at the actual Biblical text... the lion is used to describe the devil"<br />
In the Bible, is God ever likened to a lion?</p>
<p>"the moth is used to describe God. ... The Moth as God: In Hosea 5:12, God Himself speaks and says: 'I am like a moth to Ephraim, like rot to the people of Judah.' ...the moth represents God working quietly, patiently, and from the inside out"<br />
Do you believe that Hosea 5:12 depicts "God working quietly, patiently, and from the inside out"?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2026 05:25:46 -0400</pubDate>
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<p>
<strong>DavidFord said </strong><br />
"It is not if your god is the devil"<br />
If one's God _isn't_ "the devil,"<br />
is it bad to compare that God to a:<br />
lion?<br />
moth?<br />
  </p>
</blockquote>
<div class="n6owBd awi2gc">It is interesting that you think the lion is automatically better, because if we look at the actual Biblical text, it can be the exact opposite: <span style="color: #993300"><strong class="Yjhzub">the lion is used to describe the devil, while the moth is used to describe God<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></strong>.</span><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></div>
<div class="n6owBd awi2gc">Here are the exact verses:<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></div>
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<li style="list-style-type: none">
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<li class="Z1qcYe"><span class="T286Pc"><strong class="Yjhzub">The Lion as the Devil<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></strong>: In 1 Peter 5:8, the Bible explicitly warns:<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></span><br />
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<p>
<span class="T286Pc"><em class="eujQNb">"Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour."<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></em><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></span><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></p>
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<p><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></p>
</li>
<li class="Z1qcYe"><span class="T286Pc"><strong class="Yjhzub">The Moth as God<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></strong>: In Hosea 5:12, God Himself speaks and says:<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></span><br />
<blockquote class="lQkWXb">
<p>
<span class="T286Pc"><em class="eujQNb">"I am like a moth to Ephraim, like rot to the people of Judah."<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></em><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></span><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></p>
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<p><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></p>
</li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
<p><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></p>
<div class="n6owBd awi2gc">So, comparing God to a moth is not bad or lesser at all. In the Bible, the roaring lion often represents an aggressive, destructive enemy (the devil), while the moth represents God working quietly, patiently, and from the inside out.</div>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2026 17:38:38 -0400</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>"It is not if your god is the devil"<br />
If one's God _isn't_ "the devil,"<br />
is it bad to compare that God to a:<br />
lion?<br />
moth?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2026 07:10:22 -0400</pubDate>
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<p><strong>DavidFord said </strong><br />
"Peter’s epistle states that the devil is a lion"<br />
Is it bad to compare God to a:<br />
lion?</p>
<p>  </p>
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<p>It is not if your god is the devil, lol.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2026 16:24:30 -0400</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>"Peter’s epistle states that the devil is a lion"<br />
Is it bad to compare God to a:<br />
lion?<br />
moth?</p>
<p>Hosea 5 (NIV)<br />
<b>** you do not have permission to see this link **</b><br />
9 Ephraim will be laid waste<br />
on the day of reckoning.<br />
Among the tribes of Israel<br />
I proclaim what is certain.<br />
10 Judah’s leaders are like those<br />
who move boundary stones.<br />
I will pour out my wrath on them<br />
like a flood of water.<br />
11 Ephraim is oppressed,<br />
trampled in judgment,<br />
intent on pursuing idols.</p>
<p>12 I am like a moth to Ephraim,<br />
like rot to the people of Judah.<br />
...<br />
14 For I will be like a lion to Ephraim,<br />
like a great lion to Judah.<br />
I will tear them to pieces and go away;<br />
I will carry them off, with no one to rescue them.<br />
15 Then I will return to my lair<br />
until they have borne their guilt<br />
and seek my face—<br />
in their misery<br />
they will earnestly seek me.”</p>
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<p>
I imagine that some shepherds have died trying to protect their sheep.</p>
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<p>I think that Athanasius pushed <em class="eujQNb">The Shepherd of Hermas<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></em> to replace the true shepherd, Jesus <span class=""><b>** you do not have permission to see this link **</b><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[[&#034;https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search\u003d1%20Peter%205%3A8\u0026version\u003dNIV&#034;,null,null,[null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,[{&#034;1218&#034;:[17]}]],17,null,&#034;1 Peter 5:8 NIV - Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy&#034;,&#034;1 Peter 5:8 NIV - Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy - Bible Gateway. Plans start under $6/month with Bible Gateway Plus. Ang Salita ng Dios (Tagalog Contemporary Bible) (ASND) 1 Peter 5:8. New International Version. —Amuzgo de Guerrero (AMU)— Ang Salita ng Dios (Tagalog Contemporary Bible) (ASND) Be alert and of sober mind. ( A) Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Cross references. 1 Peter 5:8 : S Ac 24:25. 1 Peter 5:8 : Job 1:7. 1 Peter 5:8 : 2Ti 4:17. 1 Peter 5:8 in all English translations. 1 Peter 4. 2 Peter 1. New International Version (NIV) More on the NIV. Unleash God's Word! Want help understanding this passage? Explore trusted study tools in the Resources tab. Discover deeper insight with Bible Gateway Plus. Go deeper in this passage. Bible Gateway Plus shows trusted study notes beside the verses you're reading. Resources for 1 Peter 5:8. 61 results. 1 entry. 1 entry. 2 entries. 2 entries. 5 entries. 1 entry. 2 entries. 1 entry. 5 entries. 8 entries. 2 entries. 1 entry. 2 entries. 2 entries. 2 entries. 1 entry. 1 entry. 2 entries. 1 entry. 9 entries. 4 entries. 1 entry. 7 entries. 1 entry. 1 entry. 1 entry. 1 entry. 1 entry. 2 entries. 2 entries. 1 entry. 4 entries. 2 entries. 2 entries. 4 entries. 2 entries. 1 entry. 5 entries. 1 entry. 1 entry.&#034;,&#034;https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q\u003dtbn:ANd9GcRG8C5pc9imwedwNcT86DEP0DhKi4QbrFg4RnkucTKCH4wpqqb_FlyblIxbIJpwU1PZCcvJ5VUIF_HBDP4&#034;,&#034;Bible Gateway&#034;,&#034;https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/faviconV2?url\u003dhttps://www.biblegateway.com\u0026client\u003dAIM\u0026size\u003d128\u0026type\u003dFAVICON\u0026fallback_opts\u003dTYPE,SIZE,URL&#034;,[[1783550752722989,8787064,1074745869],null,null,null,null,[[2,0,6]]],null,&#034;8dffd977-cb3c-4d71-8921-2a323389c74f&#034;]]--></span>, and labeled him as both a sheep and a lion, while Peter's epistle states that the devil is a lion <span class="T286Pc">1 Peter 5:8<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></span>.</p>
<div class="n6owBd awi2gc">In his 39th Festal Letter, Athanasius actually noted that <em class="eujQNb">The Shepherd of Hermas</em> was highly useful for catechumens, though not part of the canon. Furthermore, the Council of Laodicea completely rejected the Book of Revelation - the book he pushed into the canon, which the Christian East continued to distrust and reject for centuries."</p>
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<ul>
<li class="Z1qcYe"><span class="T286Pc"><strong class="Yjhzub">He validated their theology:<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></strong> He essentially told the East, <em class="eujQNb">"The end-times framework, the visions, and the <strong><span style="color: #993300">two-resurrection</span> </strong>mindset found in the Shepherd are perfectly safe and orthodox for beginners to learn."<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></em><!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></span> [<b>** you do not have permission to see this link **</b>]<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></li>
<li class="Z1qcYe"><span class="T286Pc"><strong class="Yjhzub">He removed their excuse to ban Revelation:<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></strong> Once the East accepted that <em class="eujQNb">The Shepherd's<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></em> apocalyptic timeline was good for catechumens, they could no longer argue that the <em class="eujQNb">Book of Revelation's<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></em> similar timeline was a dangerous heresy.<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></span> [<b>** you do not have permission to see this link **</b>]</li>
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<p>By forcing the title of the <strong class="Yjhzub">Shepherd<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></strong> onto an angelic figure in Hermas's book, Athanasius effectively stripped the title from Jesus in that context, leaving Jesus to be viewed strictly as the sacrificial <strong class="Yjhzub">Lamb<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></strong> and <strong class="Yjhzub">Sheep<!--TgQPHd&#124;&#124;[]--></strong> within the canon he created.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2026 14:58:14 -0400</pubDate>
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                    <title>DavidFord on Gregory of Nyssa on 1 Cor 15:28</title>
                    <link>https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/paul-and-pauline-christianity/gregory-of-nyssa-on-1-cor-1528/page-3/#p47747</link>
                    <category>Paul and Pauline Christianity</category>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I imagine that some shepherds have died trying to protect their sheep.</p>
<p>1 Samuel 17 (NIV)<br />
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32 David said to Saul,<br />
“Let no one lose heart on account of this Philistine [Goliath];<br />
your servant will go and fight him.”<br />
33 Saul replied,<br />
“You are not able to go out against this Philistine and fight him;<br />
you are only a young man,<br />
and he has been a warrior from his youth.”</p>
<p>34 But David said to Saul,<br />
“Your servant has been keeping his father’s sheep.<br />
When a lion or a bear came and carried off a sheep from the flock,<br />
35 I went after it, struck it<br />
and rescued the sheep from its mouth.<br />
When it turned on me,<br />
I seized it by its hair, struck it and killed it.</p>
<p>36 Your servant has killed both the lion and the bear;<br />
this uncircumcised Philistine will be like one of them,<br />
because he has defied the armies of the living God.<br />
37 The Lord who rescued me<br />
from the paw of the lion<br />
and the paw of the bear<br />
will rescue me from the hand of this Philistine.”<br />
Saul said to David,<br />
“Go, and the Lord be with you.”</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2026 11:25:26 -0400</pubDate>
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