2380 said 

I completely agree with Stephen about Dr. Irving Finkel. You can also watch his great youtube presentations. I am especially liking one called something like "The Oldest Map of the World in the World" which is a clay tablet of the then known world and shows the mountain where the ARK would have landed.

This is a link to the video you mentioned:

The Babylonian Map of the World with Irving Finkel | Curator’s Corner S9 Ep5

Stephen said

BJH1960 said
I'm seriously thinking of creating a website: The Unreal Noah's Ark.
Anyone have any merchandising ideas?
  

Well at the very least you'd need a little model with an elephant or a giraffe sticking its head out the window.  
The search for Noah's Ark fascinates me.  I've lost track of how many times it's been found.  Maybe publish a map with all the spots marked where people have claimed to have found it. 
Sorry, all I seem to do is recommend books but the absolute best work on this subject I've ever read is The Ark Before Noah: Decoding the Story of the Flood by the wonderful Irving Finkel who delights in his job as Assistant Keeper of ancient Mesopotamian script, languages, and cultures at the British Museum.  An enthusiastic communicator, all his books are enjoyable. 
  

I completely agree with Stephen about Dr. Irving Finkel. You can also watch his great youtube presentations. I am especially liking one called something like "The Oldest Map of the World in the World" which is a clay tablet of the then known world and shows the mountain where the ARK would have landed.

Separately long ago I wondered into a cemetery near where I live which had a very small lake in the middle. They had placed statuary around the lake so that it looked as if Noah's ark had just landed and some of the animals in pairs were just coming out and going off in different directions. It was corny but the more I looked at it the more charmed I was, especially the detailing and artful placement of the animals leaving.

Years later I went back and people had put animals of every kind size and shape all over the place so there were apes larger than elephants and of course dinosaurs. All pretense of charm and good sense was gone.

Perhaps a human in the T-Rex’s jaws? 

That's ingenious.  I'm fair.  I'll give you a cut of the profits.

Stephen said
Maybe a model (or a tee-shirt or a poster) of the Ark with a T-Rex sticking its head out the window (or the porthole, rather.)  Perhaps a human in the T-Rex's jaws? 

I would buy that!

What has always struck me as completely absurd about Noah's Ark is how it has been seized upon as a children's story.  How many times have you seen a cute drawing of the boat and all the animals?  What are they thinking?  God is drowning most of the human race, including children!   It's a slaughter.  But cute I guess. 

Not to mention killing all of the other animals outside of the ark.

Maybe a model (or a tee-shirt or a poster) of the Ark with a T-Rex sticking its head out the window (or the porthole, rather.)  Perhaps a human in the T-Rex's jaws? 

What has always struck me as completely absurd about Noah's Ark is how it has been seized upon as a children's story.  How many times have you seen a cute drawing of the boat and all the animals?  What are they thinking?  God is drowning most of the human race, including children!   It's a slaughter.  But cute I guess. 

I'm not sure how much sincerity is involved in these enterprises and how much is the realization by fraudsters that the gullible will hand over their money gladly.

Recommending books is one thing of the many things you do that I appreciate.

BJH1960 said
I'm seriously thinking of creating a website: The Unreal Noah's Ark.
Anyone have any merchandising ideas?
  

Well at the very least you'd need a little model with an elephant or a giraffe sticking its head out the window.  

The search for Noah's Ark fascinates me.  I've lost track of how many times it's been found.  Maybe publish a map with all the spots marked where people have claimed to have found it. 

Sorry, all I seem to do is recommend books but the absolute best work on this subject I've ever read is The Ark Before Noah: Decoding the Story of the Flood by the wonderful Irving Finkel who delights in his job as Assistant Keeper of ancient Mesopotamian script, languages, and cultures at the British Museum.  An enthusiastic communicator, all his books are enjoyable. 

Same with the story of Jonah and the big fish. 

If these are folk stories with a lesson or some teaching inside them, I'm okay with that.

Everything doesn't have to be historically and physically verifiable for it to have some kind of value.

It is interesting, however.

Robert said:

Should we move or close this thread in violation of our forum rules?

I'd close it.  

If threads that are closed could be marked as to why they are closed, that would be nice.

Anyone have any merchandising ideas?

Henri Nissen, _Noah's Ark: Ancient Accounts and New Discoveries_ (2012), 330pp., on 136

Despite the many investigations, it remains, however, a big mystery what the curious boat-shaped object in Durupinar actually is.

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Noahs Ark found in Turkey 7 Spaces were Discovered 探索隊新考據，七度空間曝光 - NoahsArkSearch

Noahs ark: New footages of the NAMI expedition in 2009 - The Shroud of Turin

pegs 3.01 9.10 15.55
black shiny coating 7.00 12.03 16.12
wood craftsmanship 11.25+
rectangular holes 13.28
Estimated length 100+ meters

boards held together by long square wooden pegs: 3:33
First American Visit to the Mount Ararat Discovery - Philip Ernest Williams

examples of woodworking: 4:42 5:37 5:52 7:34+
Second Deck Noah's Ark - Philip Ernest Williams

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Did a catastrophic flood bring about "the collapse of the EB III urban culture"?

Amihai Mazar, _Archaeology of the Land of the Bible, Volume I: 10,000-586 B.C.E._ (1992)

https://archive.org/details/ar.....q=sparsely
Page 151 — For about three hundred years following the collapse of the EB III urban culture, Palestine was sparsely populated, mainly by pastoralists and village dwellers.
This period of decline parallels the First Intermediate Period in Egypt (Dynasties VII—XI), during which there was a decentralization of power and a break in the traditional connections between Egypt and Asia, particularly those with Byblos.
The end of Palestine’s period of decline also has a parallel in Egyptian history:
the revival of urbanization in Palestine at the beginning of the Middle Bronze Age II corresponds with the rise of the Middle Kingdom in Egypt, ca. 2000 B.C.E.
Mesopotamia also suffered from invasions and instability, though only for a relatively short duration (ca. 2230-2130 B.C.E.).

hat tip
Philip Ernest Williams, _The Archaeological Evidence of Noah's Flood_ (2011), 411pp., on 136

Her willingness to go against the grain and support unpopular notions such as the flat earth should be commended.  A woman of solid principle.

Lauren Elena Witzke is an American far-right[1] political activist known for her anti-LGBTQ, anti-Zionist, white nationalist, and antisemitic views as well as her promotion of QAnon. ... Witzke has said that COVID-19 is "satanic" and that COVID-19 vaccine is a "satanic plot" to cause "mass death." ... Witzke has described herself as a "flat Earther." ... Witzke has compared pharmaceuticals to "a form of witchcraft" and said that God had to flood the earth because Nephilim and fallen angels were providing pharmaceuticals to humanity. ... Witzke has voiced support for the far-right conspiracy theory QAnon, which centers on claims that a cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic sexual abusers of children operating a global child sex trafficking ring conspired against U.S. President Donald Trump during his term in office. During Hurricane Ian, Witzke suggested that "elites" may have created the devastating hurricane as a "deep state" attempt to punish Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and particularly conservative areas of the state. On the conservative "Shots Fired" streaming broadcast, Witzke claimed that she has "no doubt" that the technology exists to control weather catastrophes. ... Witzke believes that the 9/11 attacks were committed by Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Witzke

Do you think Laura is a credible source? Are you able to provide information and perspectives critical of her claims? Should we move or close this thread in violation of our forum rules? 

This was the ad that met me when I visited Noah's Ark Scans.

And if one wants, you might want to purchase some Official Merch.

It's also good to know a little bit about the Director of Marketing and Fundraising.

Jesus did exist, and he is the Christ/Messiah.

Is everything written about him in the NT true and the absolute facts? This is another question, but I myself would say no, not everything.

So we have a difference of perspective and opinion here. Does this constitute WWIII? I hope not.

There are proofs of Jesus's existence in all the texts and belief systems that people have built around him.

There are also a good number of people who think that having experienced his presence and his light is proof of his eternity and his existence. - - - Does this prove it to anyone else? Probably not, or not so much.

Probably we will have to go on with this difference of perspective and opinion for some time. Possibly forever.

Do we want to "proselytize" or "convert" each other one way or the other? This is perhaps not such a good idea.

We do all have the right to state our opinions and perspectives on the subject, however.

Here's to the right to state and be open about our outlooks and perspectives! Let Freedom Ring!

But maybe we should try to be nice about it.