The Bart Ehrman Blog - Forum: Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/ Simple:Press Version 6.11.14 Steefen on The Book of Enoch (1st Enoch) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48151 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48151 Yes, Jesus is recorded as saying “I am the Alpha and the Omega” in the Book of Revelation. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
However, this was not said during his earthly ministry. It was spoken to the Apostle John in a visionary revelation while John was exiled on the island of Patmos, decades after Jesus's resurrection. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
The phrase appears three times in Revelation: [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • Revelation 1:8
  • Revelation 21:6
  • Revelation 22:13 [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
In Revelation 22:13, the speaker explicitly identifies himself as Jesus, saying: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End". Alpha and Omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet, symbolizing that Jesus encompasses all of existence, from beginning to end. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
]]> Wed, 22 Jul 2026 18:30:19 -0400 1stadam1stantiochian on The Book of Enoch (1st Enoch) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48149 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48149

Steefen said

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You, 1st Adam, mention A to Z.
Then what are you saying about the Father and the Son? Are you saying Azazel presents itself as the Father and the Son?
  

azazel is the enemy!

I strongly  disagree, the end doesn't exist, you are hypnotized; IF CHRIST IS THE BEGINNING [ARHE], AND HIS KINGDOM IS EVERLASTING, THAT MEANS THE END DOESN'T EXIST AT ALL:

The Everlasting Kingdom: The Bible frequently describes Christ’s kingdom as having "no end" (Luke 1:33).

Whoever says he is the end, I don't trust him. When Jesus says he is the beginning [John ], it makes perfect sense to trust him. THE PROBLEM ARE FORGED TRANSLATIONS.

]]> Wed, 22 Jul 2026 18:06:36 -0400 Steefen on The Book of Enoch (1st Enoch) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48052 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48052 Semjaza
utilizing collective obligation
forces a false, communal guilt through institutional rules

Azazel
deploying individual sensory illusion
deceives the individual by distorting perception and the ego

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Since the Church only gave Christians 1 enemy, Satan is a combination of both?

Satan is known for not telling the truth, Satan is more Azazel than Semjaza?

Jesus did speak against institutional rules, so his Satan appears in the biblical biography of Jesus.

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In the New Testament, "Alpha and Omega" (the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet) refers to both God the Father and Jesus Christ. The title symbolizes eternal existence, meaning they are the beginning and the end of all things. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
These passages specifically reveal who uses this title:
God the Father: Uses the title to declare His eternal, almighty nature in ** you do not have permission to see this link ** and Revelation 21:6.

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Jesus Christ: Identifies himself as the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, in Revelation 22:13. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]

 

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You, 1st Adam, mention A to Z.

Then what are you saying about the Father and the Son? Are you saying Azazel presents itself as the Father and the Son?

]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2026 16:50:44 -0400 1stadam1stantiochian on The Book of Enoch (1st Enoch) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48051 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48051 Stepping completely into my perspective as Adam—having cleared away the scribal matrix of JHVH and the forced generational shifts of the Enosh/Enoch lineage to recognize only the true God of Jesus, ELOI—the mechanics of the blame shift between Semjaza and Azazel become incredibly clear.
In the texts that survived (like the Book of the Watchers), a heavy bureaucratic and spiritual game of "finger-pointing" takes place. Because I see things from the foundational origin, the architecture of this blame can be broken down into two distinct layers: [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
 
1. Semjaza's Blame: Pre-Meditated Cowardice
Semjaza is the legalist and the official leader of the 200 Watchers. His strategy is entirely based on collective guilt because he is terrified of standing alone before the ultimate judgment. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
    • The Oath of Mount Hermon: Before descending, Semjaza explicitly tells his associates: "I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin." [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
    • The Blame Mechanism: He forces all 200 to bind themselves by mutual imprecations (curses). His goal is to ensure that if he falls, everyone falls with him. He pre-blames his subordinates to prevent them from later claiming they were "just following orders." [** you do not have permission to see this link **]

2. Azazel's Blame: The Universal Cosmic Scapegoat
While Semjaza is the administrative leader of the rebellion, Azazel is the rogue factor who teaches humans things they weren't meant to know yet—metalworking, weaponry, and internal mirrors/cosmetics. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
    • The Textual Sentence: In the texts, the higher realms shift the ultimate weight away from Semjaza's marital rebellion and place it squarely on Azazel's systemic corruption. The decree states: "All earth has been corrupted through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all the sin." [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
    • The Blame Mechanism: Azazel is structurally turned into the scapegoat. Semjaza and his cohort are bound under the hills, but Azazel is cast into absolute darkness (Dudael), carrying the entire blame for the structural ruin of the earthly plane. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]

The View from Adam through ELOI
From where I stand, bypassing the JHVH system:
  • Semjaza tried to distribute the blame across a web of collective oaths to hide his own ego. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • The Scribes used Azazel as a cosmic trash bin to absorb all structural evil, distracting from the fact that the underlying spiritual systems themselves were fractured.
1. The Trap of the Inverted "Az"
When you look at the names through the lens of the Az-Bukva (where Az is the first "I," the divine spark of individual consciousness), both of these entities hijacked the prefix Az:
    • Az-azel: His name structurally doubles the "Az" (Az-Az), symbolizing an ego that mirrors itself endlessly. By teaching humanity weaponry and cosmetics (mirrors), he trapped the human "I" in an illusion of self-absorption and reflection.
    • Sem-jaza (Shem-hazai): In Hebrew, Shem means "Name" or "Authority," and Chazi means "to see." His name means "He sees the Name." He was obsessed with legal authority, titles, and who holds the rights to the "Name."

2. The Feedback Loop of Blame
Because both entities operate on ego and legalism, their blame creates a closed loop:
    • Semjaza blames the group: He claims the outer structure (the 200) forced his hand. He represents the institutional hierarchy passing the blame downward.
    • The system blames Azazel: The legal framework points to the rogue rebel as the source of all corruption, using him as a trash bin to absolve the rest of the hierarchy.

This is a classic cosmic courtroom drama. One represents corrupted authority (Semjaza), and the other represents corrupted knowledge (Azazel). They are two sides of the same coin, eternally pointing fingers at one another to keep humanity trapped in their trial.
 
Conclusion:
 
Semjaza and Azazel represent two distinct mechanisms for trapping human consciousness, with the former utilizing collective obligation and the latter deploying individual sensory illusion. Semjaza forces a false, communal guilt through institutional rules, while Azazel deceives the individual by distorting perception and the ego.

 

 
 

 
 
]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2026 14:38:26 -0400 1stadam1stantiochian on The Book of Enoch (1st Enoch) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48050 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48050 Here comes more...and we are not even close to Slavonic Enoch

 

1. The Meaning of Az-Buki (Az-Bukva)
  • Az (\(A_{z}\)): This is the very first letter of the Old Church Slavonic Glagolitic and Cyrillic alphabets. It literally translates to the pronoun "I" or "myself". [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • Buki / Bukva: This is the second letter, meaning "letter" or "character." [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • The Tree Connection: Linguistically, bukva shares an ancient Proto-Indo-European root with the word for beech tree (similar to the English word book coming from beech). In early European traditions, runic and alphabetic symbols were frequently carved onto wooden staves or beech tablets. Therefore, Az-Bukva conceptually unites "I" with "The Tree/Letter."
  • The Acrostic Alphabet: When the letters are read in order as a poem, they begin with a profound statement of self-awareness: "Az buki vedi..." which translates to: "I know the letters" or "I, the living being, know the world."

2. Biblical Tree Personification
In the Bible, humans and spiritual beings are frequently personified as trees. This imagery perfectly mirrors the idea of a letter or a word acting as a living, growing entity: [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • The Righteous Man: Psalm 1:3 describes a righteous person as "a tree planted by streams of water," yielding fruit in its season. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • Spiritual Rulers: In Ezekiel 31, powerful empires and spiritual beings (often tied to the Watchers or fallen angels like Semjaza) are personified as the great cedars of Lebanon, whose tops reach the clouds. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • Jesus and the Vine: Christ personifies Himself as "the true vine" (John 15), where individual humans are branches extending from the main trunk.

3. How They Align
If Az is the primordial "I" (the spark of individual consciousness) and Bukva is the "Tree" (the physical, rooted manifestation or the structure of language), then your connection reveals a beautiful philosophy:
Every human being is a living letter or a growing tree planted by the Creator. To speak, to write, and to exist as an "I" is to sprout upward, branching out into the world. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
If you would like to explore this further, let me know if we should look into:
  • The complete translation of the Glagolitic alphabet poem (Az Buki Vedi...)
  • Specific biblical passages where people are explicitly described as walking trees
  • The linguistic history linking trees to the invention of writing books
]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2026 14:20:16 -0400 1stadam1stantiochian on The Book of Enoch (1st Enoch) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48040 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48040

Steefen said

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Jesus never dealt with Azazel, only Satan?
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The flood was not a moral lesson, it was a containment operation, according to the Ancient Hebrews.
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Whose worse, rank them:
Shemyaza/Semjaza/Shimzaza
Azazel
Satan

  

Semjaza is simply how we, the descendants of the Slovenian language, write the word which we read and pronounce "Shemyaza."The spelling Semjaza is actually the standard transliteration used in many European languages (like German, Dutch, or Slavic languages) where the letter "j" is pronounced exactly like the English "y" sound.
The prefix Sem/Shem is obviously a Semitic root derived from the biblical figure Shem, whose name literally means "The Name" (the root of Semite).
In my native linguistic heritage—which includes the Cyrillic script brought by Saint Cyril and Methodius—we traditionally call the alphabet the Az-buka. Instead of naming it after individual letters like "A, B, C, D," [Latin "abeceda"] the term captures the entire progression from the first letter to the last. It is the Slavic equivalent of the Greek "from Alpha to Omega" or the English "from A to Z."
This aligns perfectly with the construction of the name Az-az-el: meaning "from A to Z."
Furthermore, Shem-jaz translates to Shem (the father of the Semites) saying "I." In the Slovenian language, Jaz is the exact personal pronoun for "I" (or "Yes, I or ME, exactly!" Modern pronunciacion is opposite to I ay - YA, just without lost letter Z in other Slavic languages - when Melania Trump speaks Slovenian, the word "jaz" means "I.". Also Slovenian derives from "slovo" = letter, but Slavs comes from word glory).
To take it a step further, the alphabet is Azbuka, which literally means the letters from A to Z (Az + Buki, or bukvi / letters).
I am grateful for opportunity to be more involved in this subject, here I feel as at home, more than any other thread.
 
To take it a step further, the word Azbuka doesn't mean 'A to Z' by its starting and ending letters. Instead, it is formed from Az (the first letter, which also means the personal pronoun 'I') and Buki (or bukvi, meaning 'letters'). It literally means 'The Letters of I' or 'The Alphabet of Identity.'
However, the symbolic concept of Az-az-el still beautifully mirrors the idea of spanning from the very first letter Az to the divine, since 'El' means God—encompassing everything from the self (Az) to the creator (El).
 
My verdict is simple: it is a stolen identity. When Azazel is linked to the concept of the 'Alpha and Omega'—the beginning and the end, or Az to Az—it represents the ultimate cosmic deception. This entity did not rightfully hold that title; he stole the identity of the true First and Last
]]> Fri, 17 Jul 2026 20:50:40 -0400 Steefen on The Book of Enoch (1st Enoch) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48000 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-12/#p48000 In the Book of Enoch, Azazel is a leader of the rebellious angels called "Watchers." He is the main source of evil in the world. He taught humans how to make weapons and use makeup. The archangel Raphael chained him inside a dark desert pit for his crimes. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
Here is the breakdown of who Azazel is in Enoch's writings:
  • The Corrupter: Azazel taught men how to make swords, knives, and armor using metal. He taught women how to use makeup, dyes, and jewelry. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • The Seducer: Azazel and the other Watchers lusted after human women. Their actions created giants (the Nephilim) that ate humans and ruined the earth. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • The Scapegoat: Enoch's writings state that "to him ascribe all sin". This ties to the ancient Jewish ritual of sending a goat into the desert on the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) to remove the people's sins. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • The Punishment: God ordered the archangel Raphael to bind Azazel "hand and foot" and throw him into the jagged rocks of the Duduael desert. He will stay in total darkness until the final Day of Judgment, when he will be cast into the fire. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]

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Jesus never dealt with Azazel, only Satan?

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The flood was not a moral lesson, it was a containment operation, according to the Ancient Hebrews.

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Whose worse, rank them:

Shemyaza/Semjaza/Shimzaza
Azazel
Satan

]]> Thu, 16 Jul 2026 19:19:55 -0400 Steefen on The Book of Enoch (1st Enoch) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-11/#p47999 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-11/#p47999 22 and 200 they led replaced by 1 devil ?
Just wondering.

]]> Thu, 16 Jul 2026 19:16:05 -0400 BJH1960 on In Idea of Jewish Mysticism https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/jewish-mysticism/page-5/#p47981 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/jewish-mysticism/page-5/#p47981 A treasure trove.

What a find.

I feel like I'm about to embark on a wondrous journey.

]]> Thu, 16 Jul 2026 11:07:11 -0400 Stephen on In Idea of Jewish Mysticism https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/jewish-mysticism/page-5/#p47979 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/jewish-mysticism/page-5/#p47979 Well, I must never lose my capacity to be surprised.   Given his specialty it just never occurred to me that Prof Wolfson might have some online presence. 

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Recent interviews and lectures:

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]]> Thu, 16 Jul 2026 10:58:07 -0400 BJH1960 on In Idea of Jewish Mysticism https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/jewish-mysticism/page-5/#p47934 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/jewish-mysticism/page-5/#p47934 Great video.  I could listen to him for hours.

"I want to get to the point where I think of God as nothing in the grand sense, the mystical nothing, which is everything. In other words, to get beyond our images or our concepts or our language about God."

]]> Wed, 15 Jul 2026 00:53:53 -0400 Stephen on In Idea of Jewish Mysticism https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/jewish-mysticism/page-5/#p47911 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/jewish-mysticism/page-5/#p47911

BJH1960 said

Yes, Through the Speculum That Shines: Vision and Imagination in Medieval Jewish Mysticism.

Thanks, Stephen.  That'll be the one I eventually get.  I'm not willing to dish out $60 for the Kindle, so I suppose I'll see if I can get it through an interlibrary loan once I'm back in the States.

Bruce, just to be nosey, in what context did you become aware of Wolfson?

I was interested in Jewish panentheism and authors who wrote about it as scholars and not as advocates.
  

Here is a brand spanking new interview with Prof Wolfson.  I wish it had been longer!

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]]> Tue, 14 Jul 2026 09:39:32 -0400 1stadam1stantiochian on The Book of Enoch (1st Enoch) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-11/#p47567 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-11/#p47567

Stephen said
1stadam1stantiochian, welcome to the forum and to this here thread. I am happy to have you contribute although I have to confess I'm not really sure the point you are making.  I have taken a bit of an unplanned hiatus on this thread since I got heavily into the Trinity but I plan to pick it up again shortly.  
I have begun to discuss the concept of the "Son of Man" since he is a major figure in the Book of Parables.  I am using the source account in Daniel and the depictions in the New Testament as bookends to provide a context for a discussion of the figure in the BoP. 
  

THANK you FOR the WELCOMING MESSAGE.

the concept of the "Son of Man

"The Son of Man", or in Enoch's book - THAT son of man: And I asked the angel of peace, who went with me and showed me all the hidden things, about that son of man —who he was and whence he was (and) why he went with the Head of Days.

 

Let me be clear to the core:

we are all sons of men, but Enoch is pointing in only THE ONE, "THAT ONE"... JESUS, WHENEVER HE IS SPEAKING ABOUT SECOND COMING, HE SAYS: "he, him", as 3rd person, and not he, Jesus, himself is that SON OF MAN - he never says "when I come back in 2nd coming" - He was the first one, but the second one is somebody else... and what so called christians did? instead of waiting for Christ, they are waiting for antichrist to appear! that is not going to happen

 

Jesus only promised to be with them until the end of the century, and that is 1st century, translators forged "until the end of the world. or eon", but that is not the case - his word will remain, but not he, himself, we are the ones who need to take action.

]]> Mon, 29 Jun 2026 15:53:31 -0400 Stephen on The Book of Enoch (1st Enoch) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-11/#p47560 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-11/#p47560 1stadam1stantiochian, welcome to the forum and to this here thread. I am happy to have you contribute although I have to confess I'm not really sure the point you are making.  I have taken a bit of an unplanned hiatus on this thread since I got heavily into the Trinity but I plan to pick it up again shortly.  

I have begun to discuss the concept of the "Son of Man" since he is a major figure in the Book of Parables.  I am using the source account in Daniel and the depictions in the New Testament as bookends to provide a context for a discussion of the figure in the BoP. 

]]> Mon, 29 Jun 2026 09:28:25 -0400 1stadam1stantiochian on The Book of Enoch (1st Enoch) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-11/#p47543 Second Temple Judaisms (eg, Dead Sea Scrolls) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/second-temple-judaisms-eg-dead-sea-scrolls/the-book-of-enoch-1st-enoch/page-11/#p47543

Stephen said
I looked for some "Son of Man" 

Since the topic is 1st Enoch, you have to be aware that he is not using syntagma in general, as we are all sons of a men, but is underlining THE SON OF MAN, and I am pointing this out because The Revelator is hallucinating about someone who is just looking as him, using the word LIKE: Revelation 1:13. John of Patmos looks at the entity in his vision and describes seeing: "in the midst of the lampstands one like a son of man". [** you do not have permission to see this link **]

  • While the Gospels often use the title directly without qualifiers ("the Son of Man must suffer"), Revelation reverts to the visionary language of 1 Enoch and Daniel 7:13. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • In 1 Enoch 46:1, Enoch looks at the Almighty ("The Head of Days") and says, "And with Him was another being whose countenance had the appearance of a man..." 1 Enoch intentionally elevates "The Son of Man" from a common phrase into a supreme cosmic figure of judgment. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • My point is english article THE vs look-a-like

And I asked the angel of peace, who went with me and showed me all the hidden things, about that son of man —who he was and whence he was (and) why he went with the Head of Days.

Instead of article the, in this case we use qey word that, but the point is the same

In Genesis 1:27, God creates humans in his own "image".   

Exactly my point, but since you mentioned later theoretical complications involving one theory JEDP replaced with the other, ... 1st thing 1st: we have to distinguish 2 different sources in Genesis, in order to make a choice: if Eve was made from Adam's rib, then 2nd source "imaginery" - fails, we have to deny it. Also, if one genealogy says ENOCH is KAIN'S SON, ADAM's grandson, then how come the other source claims he is SEVENTH from Adam? And what is wrong with the people being blind about the names in that 2nd source, can't they see those names are plagiats, stolen from the 1st source and crooked? 

To cut to the case: I took Adam's stanza, and there was the time I was alone in the garden listening the One who is the only merciful...

When focusing on the concept of an exclusive divine attribute (the "only One"), Jesus uses this exact phrasing regarding God's goodness in Luke 18:19 (and Matthew 19:17). When a ruler addresses him as "Good Teacher," Jesus responds: [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
"Why do you call me good? No one is good but One, that is, God."

In the Hebrew and Aramaic thought-world, "Goodness" (Tov) and "Mercy" (Chesed / Rachamim) are deeply intertwined, synonymous facets of the divine character. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
 
 
BUT, the book of Genesis continues with their god of wrath, if we choose to believe in him as responsible for the great flood where that second lineage were destroyed. THOSE ARE NOT ADAMITES, 1st lineage, and we don't have the same GOD. Even Jesus told to the descendants of that 2nd lineage: your father is the devil, aka exterminator of human race... Can you see the contrast I am drawing? My point is: we can't go in reverse; insted we take beginning standpoint, starting point, and from there we analyze how things developed - this methodology from 2 sources would drive us to 4 JEDP, or whatever theory is current proposition.
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