The Bart Ehrman Blog - Forum: The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/ Simple:Press Version 6.11.14 Stephen on Theos (source of the universe) was introduced into the Hebrew Bible from the Greek Language? (The first 2 minutes and 30 seconds, at least of this video) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48479 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48479 ...it is liberating to expand into these facts, to be a seeker of truth and of what is real first and a believer second.

Thanks Steefen. Contemplation of your credulity gives me strength to live in a world of doubt and contingency and uncertainty. 

]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2026 17:34:33 -0400 Steefen on Theos (source of the universe) was introduced into the Hebrew Bible from the Greek Language? (The first 2 minutes and 30 seconds, at least of this video) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48476 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48476 Paul Wallis:
All ETs are not demonic.

God the source of everything.

Plato was before Early Christianity. When you get to the New Testament, the writers are immersed in the thought world of Plato. Paul repeats what Plato said. Read the new testament in the context of other Greco-Roman literature.

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After being gaslit, it is liberating to expand into these facts, to be a seeker of truth and of what is real first and a believer second.

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Mr. Graves:
Viewing UAPs is routine.

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"Thank you Jesus" is not interchangeable with "Thank you Yahweh."

Let the Bible not be a bible of deceit and secrecy.

]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2026 15:24:29 -0400 Steefen on Theos (source of the universe) was introduced into the Hebrew Bible from the Greek Language? (The first 2 minutes and 30 seconds, at least of this video) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48474 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48474 Leonard:
Where is home for the biblical order?

Paul:
We're in contact with more demographics of aliens now.

Regions of space in stories around the world.

The Pleides

Sirius and Orion

Cignus

Zeta Reticuli

and more.

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Earth is a planet to be exploited some may think.

pick up at 54:01 of 1:21:45

]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2026 12:12:03 -0400 Steefen on Theos (source of the universe) was introduced into the Hebrew Bible from the Greek Language? (The first 2 minutes and 30 seconds, at least of this video) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48473 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48473 Paul Wallis:
They did not create us "ex nihilo" from nothing.

Leonard:
Is space travel influenced by UAPs?

Paul:
Yes.

Here is a breakdown of both concepts, as there is no single entity known as "Tingere the sky people":
1. The Above People (Sky Beings) in Blackfoot Legend
In the creation stories of the Blackfoot (Siksika) Nation, the Above People or Sky Beings (known as Spomi'tapiiks) were the first creations of the great creator, Apistotoke. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • The Sun (Natosi): The first and most highly venerated Sky Being, representing supreme power and life force.
  • Other Beings: This group also includes the moon goddess (Komorkis), the Morning Star, and all the constellations.
  • Their Realm: Blackfoot traditions describe them as living in a completely separate society and land located high above the clouds. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
2. Tengri: The Eternal Blue Sky Deity
If you are thinking of a sky deity, you may be referring to Tengri (or Tangri / Tenger), the supreme sky god of ancient Turkic and Mongolian religions (a belief system called Tengrism). [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • The Eternal Blue Sky: Ancient nomadic tribes of the Eurasian steppes considered Tengri to be the all-encompassing spirit of heaven and the wind. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
  • Tengrism: Adherents believe that the universe is governed by Tengri alongside the Earth Mother (Umay). Mankind is viewed as a part of a living, spiritual cosmos where the goal is to live in perfect balance with nature. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]

Also see:
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]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2026 12:00:47 -0400 Steefen on Theos (source of the universe) was introduced into the Hebrew Bible from the Greek Language? (The first 2 minutes and 30 seconds, at least of this video) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48471 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48471 Interviewer Leonard:
What do you think of man having existed in some form before he was created at Gen 1:26?

Paul Wallis:
The Mayan story in the Popol Vuh.
Our planet had visitors long before our species emerged.
The feathered servants wanted a workforce species. The results were us and apes in the forest.
They were working with other primates.

Steefen:
So, it is not just the Anunnaki who needed a workforce of mankind.
We were around in some form, then we were tweaked.

Paul:
We look like Elohim. We look like Anunnaki. We are a mix.

Interviewer Leonard:
Who are our creators: the Elohim or the Anunnaki or are they one and the same? 

Paul:
They came from the sky from the stars.
They are powerful. They are advanced.

Ultimately, they are not creators.
Now we do gene splicing and they did it. We do genetic engineering and they did it. We do crossbreeding and they did it.
 I hold to Panspermia.

Panspermia is the scientific hypothesis that life exists throughout the universe and can be transferred from one planetary system or celestial body to another through meteorites, asteroids, comets, or cosmic dust. It suggests life on Earth may have originated elsewhere. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
Types of Panspermia
  • Lithopanspermia: Microorganisms hitch a ride inside rocks blasted into space by planetary impacts.
  • Radiopanspermia: Microscopic spores travel through space propelled by the radiation pressure of stars.
  • Directed panspermia: Life is intentionally seeded across the cosmos by an advanced intelligent civilization. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
Supporting Evidence and Challenges
  • Resilience: Space experiments show some hardy extremophile bacteria can survive intense UV radiation and extreme acceleration forces.
  • Organic Compounds: Amino acids and complex carbon molecules are frequently found inside comets and meteorites.
  • The Core Limitation: It does not explain how life originally formed; it only shifts the origin site to another location in space. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
]]> Thu, 06 Aug 2026 11:50:30 -0400 Steefen on Theos (source of the universe) was introduced into the Hebrew Bible from the Greek Language? (The first 2 minutes and 30 seconds, at least of this video) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48451 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48451 Paul Wallis:
There is not a continuity from the God of the Hebrew Bible to the God of the Gospels.

Christianity is not built on Jewish lore or Jewish law. [Acts 15]

Steefen:
So Paul is partially right

Paul Wallis:
Christianity is mistakenly 100% Theology ...

Steefen:
It should be a higher percentage Technology and a lower percentage Theology.

Okay Paul Wallis, you made a valid point there. How much did Jesus give to Technology or was he just giving us a different Theology?

Pick up at 34:07.

So far, this excellent video gets a thumb up icon.

Jane:
This was most informative and thought provoking…I think I like what you do here, and subscribed.
YouTube Channel: This Week...In the 12th / Interviewer / Leonard:
Jane, I am humbled and grateful. I don't, and won't, take your eyes and ears for granted.

Will keep doing our best here to inform, provoke thought, and dive beneath the surface.
 

]]> Wed, 05 Aug 2026 10:23:22 -0400 Steefen on Theos (source of the universe) was introduced into the Hebrew Bible from the Greek Language? (The first 2 minutes and 30 seconds, at least of this video) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48450 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48450 The Bible is not the best book that teaches us about God?

Answer: probably not:

]]> Wed, 05 Aug 2026 10:07:13 -0400 Steefen on Theos (source of the universe) was introduced into the Hebrew Bible from the Greek Language? (The first 2 minutes and 30 seconds, at least of this video) https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48443 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/theos-source-of-the-universe-was-introduced-into-the-hebrew-bible-from-the-greek-language-the-first-2-minutes-and-30-seconds-at-least-of-this-video/#p48443 Theos (source of the universe) was introduced
into the Hebrew Bible
from the Greek Language?

(The first 2 minutes and 30 seconds, at least of this video)

]]> Mon, 03 Aug 2026 18:33:59 -0400 Steefen on Books. Gods of the Bible by Mauro Biglino https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/books-gods-of-the-bible-by-mauro-biglino/page-2/#p47553 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/books-gods-of-the-bible-by-mauro-biglino/page-2/#p47553 What he said after that and before the end makes one think about the verse Matthew 26:53: My Father will put at my disposal more than 12 legions of angels.

Finished watching the video.

]]> Sun, 28 Jun 2026 16:46:42 -0400 1stadam1stantiochian on Lucifer vs Satan vs Devil vs Deceiver vs Etc https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/lucifer-vs-satan-vs-devil-vs-deceiver-vs-etc/#p47544 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/lucifer-vs-satan-vs-devil-vs-deceiver-vs-etc/#p47544

Christopher.spurling said
I’m not asking the question to create a reconstructionist approach to ancient religion, just to learn more about how Lucifer was seen socially, religiously, and how that changed over time. NOTE: This has nothing to do with Satan-worship! Pagans generally venerate nature and natural forces that pre-date Christianity. 
Thanks all!
  

I am curious about the evolution of the Christian antagonist character. 

This is very interesting story: roman-catholics are trying to convince us he was once protagonist. I accidentally learned about that period trying to figure out arianism, and whether or not Arius was condemned rightly. In my own blog I deal with that question:

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But you don't have to follow me, 1 quick search, and voilà:

Saint Lucifer (Bishop of Cagliari, Sardinia) was originally a devoted champion of Athanasius, the Bishop of Alexandria. Lucifer bravely represented Pope Liberius at the Council of Milan (355), where he vehemently defended Athanasius against pro-Arian bishops and Emperor Constantius II, leading to his own exile. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]

Another research would bring us to Andrew of caesarea who claimed analyzing the book of revelation that  is perfectly okay to use the same term LUCIFER for JESUS AND SAINTS, AND ALSO FOR THE DEVIL

 
You are entirely correct about the fascinating linguistic crossover, though a minor historical distinction should be made: Andrew of Caesarea wrote his famous Commentary on the Apocalypse in Greek, so he used the Greek equivalent Phosphoros (light-bearer / morning star), which perfectly mirrors the Latin word Lucifer. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
Your research points directly to a crucial concept in early Christian biblical analysis (exegesis). The Book of Revelation uses the visual symbol of the "morning star" in highly versatile, fluid ways.
One Term, Three Dynamic Meanings
Early Church Fathers like Andrew of Caesarea explicitly noted that sharing a descriptive title did not mean the entities shared the same nature. The title was applied based on the context of how light and dawn are understood: [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
    • For Jesus: In Revelation 22:16, Jesus explicitly proclaims, "I am the bright morning star." In both Greek (Phosphoros) and Latin (Lucifer), this signifies that Christ is the ultimate bringer of spiritual light who shatters the darkness of sin and signals the dawn of eternal life. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
    • For the Saints: In Revelation 2:28, Jesus promises the faithful overcomers that he will give them "the morning star." Analysts like Andrew noted that saints share this title because they reflect Christ's light, shining like stars in the dark world through their holiness. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
    • For the Devil: The association comes from Isaiah 14:12 ("How you have fallen from heaven, morning star..."). Exegetes applied this to Satan to describe his original, pre-fall status. He was created as a magnificent, glorious light-bearing angel before his pride caused him to fall into darkness. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]

Why This Matters
This theological flexibility shows that ancient readers did not treat "Lucifer" as a rigid, exclusive proper name for the Devil the way modern pop culture does. To them, it was an adjustable descriptive title meaning "light-bearer." It could logically represent the Source of Light (Jesus), the Reflectors of Light (Saints), or a Fallen Light (the Devil). [** you do not have permission to see this link **]
If you want to keep digging into this area of early church history, let me know if you would like to explore:
  • The translation shift in the Latin Vulgate Bible, where lucifer is used in both the Old and New Testaments.
  • Other apocalyptic symbols in ** you do not have permission to see this link **.
  • How the King James Version later isolated the word "Lucifer" exclusively for Satan. [** you do not have permission to see this link **]

I am personally, in accordance with Antiochian school of theology VS Alexandrian, rejecting The Book of Revelation, and I am using these informations against it; but if you needed an alibi for luciferians, let it be, LOL.

]]> Sun, 28 Jun 2026 11:29:26 -0400 Steefen on Books. Gods of the Bible by Mauro Biglino https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/books-gods-of-the-bible-by-mauro-biglino/page-2/#p47516 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/books-gods-of-the-bible-by-mauro-biglino/page-2/#p47516 Mauro:
Nephilim is a plural term of Nephila which only means Orion constellation.

We could make the suggestion, then, the Nephilim came from the constellation Orion.

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The stars in the Orion constellation do not share a single distance from Earth; they are scattered in 3D space between 240 and 2,000 light-years away.

Major Stars
  • Betelgeuse (Red Supergiant / Orion's "shoulder"): ≈ 500 - 650 light-years
  • Rigel (Blue Supergiant / Orion's "foot"): ≈ 860 light-years

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Mauro Biglino, translator:

The term Yahweh comes from a time when the Hebrew language didn't exist yet.

The term creation ex nihilo, creation out of nothing, does not exist in the Bible.

The term omnipotent does not exist in the Bible. In the Bible, God introduced Itself to Abraham as Almighty which means god of the desert or god of the mountain, not omnipotent/omnipotence. Immortality is not in the bible.

Yahweh wanted to kill other people to get territory that was not originally Yahweh's territory.

pick up at 1:14.18

 

]]> Sat, 27 Jun 2026 11:10:55 -0400 Steefen on Books. Gods of the Bible by Mauro Biglino https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/books-gods-of-the-bible-by-mauro-biglino/page-2/#p47503 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/books-gods-of-the-bible-by-mauro-biglino/page-2/#p47503 Biglino
Thou shall not worship other gods
means there are other Elohim, not just Yahweh.

So, it's a contradiction...

Steefen
Another contradiction.

Biglino
A god should be omnipresent but Yahweh can leave / cannot be present.

Pick up at 37:13.

]]> Fri, 26 Jun 2026 16:04:08 -0400 Steefen on Books. Gods of the Bible by Mauro Biglino https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/books-gods-of-the-bible-by-mauro-biglino/#p47502 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/books-gods-of-the-bible-by-mauro-biglino/#p47502 33:00
Biglino

In the DSS, Abraham swore his fidelity to Elyon not to Yahweh.
Elyon is not Yahweh.

Psalm 82: there is an assembly of Elohim.

God presides in the divine assembly;

He renders judgment among the gods:** you do not have permission to see this link **

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and show partiality to the wicked? ...

I have said, ‘You are gods;

you are all sons of the Most High.’** you do not have permission to see this link **

** you do not have permission to see this link **But like mortals you will die,

and like rulers you will fall.”

]]> Fri, 26 Jun 2026 16:00:21 -0400 Steefen on Books. Gods of the Bible by Mauro Biglino https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/books-gods-of-the-bible-by-mauro-biglino/#p47454 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/books-gods-of-the-bible-by-mauro-biglino/#p47454 Mauro Biglino:
The Bible does not say where Elyon and the Elohim came from.

The Elohim, for example like Yahweh, were governors, somewhat--Yahweh ruled only over the family of Jacob.

Steefen:
A local god.

Mauro Biglino:
Separate Hebrews and Israel because Yahweh was only for the family of Israel/Jacob.

The Elohim were flesh and blood.

The ancient theologians allegorized and spiritualized the texts that spoke of the Elohim.

The Bible speaks of a multiplicity of beings ruling over various peoples. There are members of the Vatican and rabbis who agree with me. Monotheism is a culprit.

Biblical history is not what is narrated by theologians.

Project Unity (the interviewer):
Theologians dug themselves into a hole.

The first part of the Bible is a copy of the history of Sumer. So, we have something weird: The original is the myth and the copy is the truth.

pick up at 28:34.

]]> Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:54:03 -0400 Steefen on Books. Gods of the Bible by Mauro Biglino https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/books-gods-of-the-bible-by-mauro-biglino/#p47452 The Hebrew Bible https://ehrmanblog.org/forum/the-hebrew-bible/books-gods-of-the-bible-by-mauro-biglino/#p47452 I have to see how Mauro Biglino's research sits with me.

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YouTube Channel: Project Unity
Video: The Vatican Fired Him for Revealing What the Bible Really Says!

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