Google,
Who taught humans astrology?
Answer:
The 9th Watcher, Baraqiel.
Chat GPT-4,
Did Baraqiel teach the Babylonians Astrology or did a an apkallu teach the Babylonians Astrology?
The figure associated with teaching astrology to the Babylonians comes from the Apkallu, not Baraqiel. The Apkallu were considered ancient, semi-divine sages or wise men in Mesopotamian (specifically Babylonian and Assyrian) mythology, credited with bringing knowledge to humanity. Among this knowledge was astrology, divination, and other sciences.
Apkallu in Babylonian Mythology:
The Apkallu were often described as being fish-like creatures or beings who came from the sea, sent by the god Ea (Enki), a deity of wisdom, water, and creation.
They were known for bestowing wisdom, including astrology, writing, building, and agriculture, to the early Mesopotamian civilizations.
The Apkallu are frequently connected with the traditions of teaching mankind celestial knowledge (i.e., astrology), which later became an essential part of Babylonian culture and religion.
Baraqiel and the Watchers:
Baraqiel (or Barachiel) is a name from the Book of Enoch, one of the leaders of the Watchers. In Enochian tradition, the Watchers were angels who descended to Earth and taught humanity various forms of forbidden knowledge. While astrology is one of the subjects associated with the Watchers’ teachings, this narrative is typically linked to Jewish apocryphal traditions, not Babylonian mythology.
Therefore, while Baraqiel is part of a different mythic system involving celestial knowledge, the teaching of astrology in Babylonian culture is attributed to the Apkallu.
According to the Book of Enoch, Baraqiel taught humans astrology during the days of Jared or Yered. Baraqiel was the ninth watcher of the 200 fallen angels, and his name means “lightning of God”.
The earliest recorded organized system of astrology was Babylonian astrology, which originated in the 2nd millennium BC. Western astrology, which is still in use today, can be traced back to Mesopotamia in the 19th–17th century BCE.
Astrology was originally used to predict the course of a person’s life based on the positions of the planets and zodiac signs at the time of their birth or conception. The belief that celestial bodies influenced people led scholars to carefully observe the night sky and planets, which contributed to the development of astronomy.
Were the Watchers holy? Mating with humans was their only sin?
Chat GPT-4
The Watchers in the Book of Enoch and other related Jewish apocryphal texts were originally holy angels, but they became fallen angels after descending to Earth and committing various sins. Their most notorious act was mating with human women, but this was not their only transgression. Here’s a breakdown of their story and the sins they committed:
The Watchers in Enochian Tradition:
Holy Origin:
The Watchers were part of a group of angels originally tasked with observing humanity. Their role was likely to be guardians or overseers, which is why they are called “Watchers” (from the Hebrew word “ʿir”, meaning “those who watch”).
The Sin of Mating with Humans:
The Watchers, led by Shemihaza (Semyaza), lusted after human women. Despite knowing it was forbidden, they descended from Heaven and took mortal women as wives. From this union, they fathered the Nephilim, a race of giant, powerful, and often violent beings. This is the most famous of their sins, mentioned explicitly in Genesis 6:1-4 and expanded in detail in the Book of Enoch.
Teaching Forbidden Knowledge:
Aside from mating with humans, the Watchers also taught humanity forbidden knowledge that led to widespread corruption. They instructed humans in various arts and sciences that were considered inappropriate or dangerous for humankind at the time:
Azazel: Taught humans the art of making weapons and armor, leading to violence and war.
Semjaza (Semyaza) and others: Taught enchantments, sorcery, and astrology.
Baraqiel: Taught humans astrology, which was considered forbidden knowledge.
Kokabiel: Taught the constellations.
Shamsiel: Taught signs of the sun.
This teaching of hidden wisdom led to moral decay and the spread of sorcery, warfare, vanity, and other forms of corruption among humans.
The Consequences:
Divine Judgment:
As a result of their transgressions, the Watchers were severely punished. In the Book of Enoch, God commands the archangels (such as Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael) to imprison the Watchers in the abyss (the prison of the stars) until the Day of Judgment. Their offspring, the Nephilim, were destroyed in the Great Flood.
Fallen Status:
By mating with humans and teaching forbidden knowledge, the Watchers transformed from holy beings to fallen angels, no longer serving God. Their actions are considered deeply corruptive and contribute to the eventual downfall of humanity before the Flood.
Summary of Sins:
Mating with human women, which was strictly forbidden.
Teaching forbidden knowledge that led to humanity’s corruption.
Thus, the Watchers were originally holy but fell from grace due to multiple sins, not just their unions with humans. Their legacy in Jewish apocryphal literature is one of profound rebellion and corruption.
Wait a second,
Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of Knowledge
The Watchers only continued that.
God didn’t make them throw up what they ate.
All-knowing God didn’t immediately show up and say
1) What are you doing? Don’t eat that. I’m going to have to pump your stomach or give you a laxative.
2) Angels, stop. Do not teach them those things. I do not want them to know about that.
2) Don’t have sex with them. I can impregnate Mary, the Mother of Jesus, but you cannot impregnate human females.
It’s a source of salvation.
Watch the video in comment 3. She tell you why.
Astroloogy helps explain life.
Individuals need to be diagnosed.
Knowledge helps save us.
We have to know how to navigate the environment we live in.
Her understanding of her environment is excellent.
That verse says:
And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars—all the heavenly array—
do not be enticed into bowing down to them
and worshiping things the LORD your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven.
Steefen
There are people who are students of Astrology who do not bow down or worship them.
Colin, your comment is off the topic of this thread: studying a field of knowledge is not worship.
But the people who first formulated astrology believed that the heavenly bodies were divine beings. Indeed, astral worship was ubiquitous in the ancient world. Modern science didn’t just inform us about the true nature of the planets and stars. Astrology is predicated on the earth having a privileged position in the universe. Post-Copernican cosmology renders the whole idea of astrology ludicrous.
Always wrong, even when the evidence is staring you in the face.
There is nothing ludicrous about what the astrologer experienced in comment 3
and what I experienced in my own life.with locational astrology.
God isn’t the only divine being. The planets can be divine beings.
You just have to have your priorities straight.
The ancients, thinking that earth was the center and focus of their cosmos, can be excused for their ignorance. All who live today are without excuse. If the idea of divinity means anything it is in the capacity of the human mind to understand the universe. But there’s a cost. The price is that we must abandon a lot of old, wrong ideas. We are not the center of the universe. We are not its reason for being.
When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways.
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