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Bart’s Latest Attack on Christianity by Randy Alcorn - Member Forum Discussion
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Steefen
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June 21, 2020 - 6:04 pm

Oh

My

God

 

This is a reminder I have to read Bart’s Post and react to it.

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Stephen
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June 22, 2020 - 2:41 pm

OMG is right.   Nobody believes the Bible but Randy and his followers and all the rest of us are minions of Satan.   I suppose it’s admirable on Prof Ehrman’s part to bend over backwards to accommodate theses folks.  I would be less so myself.  You only  get  to tell me I’m possessed  by Satan once and then we’re done.

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June 22, 2020 - 5:26 pm

Randy
In this era of escalating deconversions, exvangelicals, and the “Dones” (with church), Ehrman is a major instrument in countless readers’ downward spiritual trajectory.

Steefen
That is spiritually criminal, if true.

Randy
Ehrman seeks to build credibility by sharing his testimony of conversion to unbelief. The personal testimony has been used by faith-affirmers to reach the lost. Now it has become a tool of faith-deniers to reach the found.

Steefen
It is important that people aspire and commit to an upward trajectory, to a high way, to being a good citizen, not a criminal, to be helpful not harmful.

As a historical accuracy of the Bible investigator who has concluded Jesus is a composite character of historical fiction who found his mission so pleasing to God in the beginning but later was led to an awareness of his delusion of God’s pleasure and support. God, the owner of the Holy Land Vineyard, sent key representatives to their deaths. Jesus’ “testimony” was a delusion of upward spiritual trajectory. His gospel could not prevent the Tribulation of the Jewish uprising against Rome (the Jewish Revolt) and the Jewish Civil War (66-70/73 CE), the Kitos War (115–117 CE), and the Bar Kokhba revolt (132–136 CE).

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Stephen
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June 22, 2020 - 10:00 pm

In this era of escalating deconversions, exvangelicals, and the “Dones” (with church), Ehrman is a major instrument in countless readers’ downward spiritual trajectory.

A noble effort  for which  he is to be congratulated!  The less silly things people believe the better. 

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June 23, 2020 - 1:28 pm

Steefen said
Randy
In this era of escalating deconversions, exvangelicals, and the “Dones” (with church), Ehrman is a major instrument in countless readers’ downward spiritual trajectory.

Steefen
That is spiritually criminal, if true.

Randy
Ehrman seeks to build credibility by sharing his testimony of conversion to unbelief. The personal testimony has been used by faith-affirmers to reach the lost. Now it has become a tool of faith-deniers to reach the found.

Steefen
It is important that people aspire and commit to an upward trajectory, to a high way, to being a good citizen, not a criminal, to be helpful not harmful.

As a historical accuracy of the Bible investigator who has concluded Jesus is a composite character of historical fiction who found his mission so pleasing to God in the beginning but later was led to an awareness of his delusion of God’s pleasure and support. God, the owner of the Holy Land Vineyard, sent key representatives to their deaths. Jesus’ “testimony” was a delusion of upward spiritual trajectory. His gospel could not prevent the Tribulation of the Jewish uprising against Rome (the Jewish Revolt) and the Jewish Civil War (66-70/73 CE), the Kitos War (115–117 CE), and the Bar Kokhba revolt (132–136 CE).  

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Historical accuracy?? Isn’t that a bit like saying the Bible is inerrant? Example: Seventy-five years ago Harry Truman authorized atom bombs to be dropped on Japan. People are still debating his motives and whether or not if he did the “right” thing. Yes there were physical results but interpretation of results are pertinent to the individual.

Steefen
It is a joy to take a deep dive and examine the foundations of the Bible. I do not understand the point you are making.

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Steefen
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June 27, 2020 - 2:33 pm

Randy
We all have our vested interests in some opinions because of our intuition, preferences, upbringing, training and sometimes wonderful or terrible experiences. But “scholars say” and “there is a firm consensus among scholars” always leaves out the scholars who do not say that but something very different, and who are part of a consensus of scholars themselves that are unpopular with the other group of scholars.

I will come back finally to address the belief that I have slandered Bart.

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