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Billy Carson cannot hold his own in an Argument. - Steve Campbell, Argumentation Specialist // I have to show him?
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Steefen
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December 8, 2024 - 1:25 am

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December 8, 2024 - 1:26 am

Billy vs Wess
Codex Sinaiticus – Billy Loses
Gospel of Barnabas – Billy Loses
Gospel of Jesus’ Wife – Billy Loses
Genesis is based on earlier creation and flood stories from Ancient Sumer – Billy Loses but that is true: Genesis is based on earlier creation and flood stories.
For me Genesis is sourced from the Sumerian text, Atrahasis. I hold that God did not tailor make the Sun and the Earth. The Sun is a star. Science knows how stars are made and no ancient story got that right. Those ancient stories say nothing of dwarf galaxies merging with galaxies producing stars and says nothing of star nurseries (nebulas/nebulae).
Genesis account of the creation of our Solar System cannot compete with cosmic archaeology.

Genesis is based on earlier creation and flood stories from Ancient Summer – Billy fails to illustrate his point about Atrahasis being liked by a god who tells him to build a boat and show how that is similar to Noah being liked by a god who tells him to build a boat.
The Sumerian creation stories say humans were created by more than one god. Genesis says Let us make humans. [man/mankind]. In the Sumerian creation story of Atrahasis, humans are created by the god Enki and the goddess Belet-ili. There is your Let us make Man, right there!
Steve Campbell, author of Historical Accuracy (2021)

I’m currently working on the second edition (2025). In the first edition, I did not cover the creation and the flood but now that I have studied Atrahasis, I’m good to add it in.
Wess wouldn’t treat me the way he treated Billy. I invite Wess to review the second edition of my book. Jon McCray (the person who runs this YouTube channel) and even Candace Owens can review my book as well, and anyone else. Jesus is a composite character of historical fiction.
Addition: I highly doubt a historical Messiah named Jesus from Galilee was crucified in the early 30s. There was a Jesus from Galilee who went to battle with Vespasian and Titus at the Battle of Galilee in the late 60s.

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December 8, 2024 - 8:09 am

Do we have proof that Billy Carson is not affiliated with the YHWH BEN YHWH, Nation of YHWH?

He does look a lot like the new leader called King YHWH.
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December 8, 2024 - 1:03 pm

EXPLANATION OF Correction Billy Wins ! ! ! regarding the Gospel of Barnabas

Hey Chat, in what gospel does Jesus not get crucified? Gospel of Thomas is one.

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The Gospel of Thomas is one example, though it doesn’t narrate the crucifixion or resurrection at all—it’s a collection of sayings attributed to Jesus. However, other early Christian texts and apocryphal gospels also suggest alternative narratives or omit the crucifixion. Here are a few notable examples:
1. Gospel of Peter

In this gospel, Jesus appears to transcend suffering, and his death is portrayed in a way that emphasizes his divine power. Some interpretations suggest that Jesus was not fully humanly present in his suffering.

2. The Second Treatise of the Great Seth (Gnostic Text)

This Gnostic text, found in the Nag Hammadi Library, claims that Jesus did not actually suffer on the cross. Instead, it suggests that someone else, possibly Simon of Cyrene, was crucified in Jesus’ place. Jesus laughs at the ignorance of those who think they are crucifying him.

3. Gospel of Barnabas (Medieval Text)

This later, non-canonical gospel suggests that Judas Iscariot was made to look like Jesus and was crucified in his place. This aligns with certain Islamic interpretations found in the Qur’an (Surah 4:157).

4. Gospel of Basilides

Referenced by early church fathers like Irenaeus, this text suggests that Simon of Cyrene was crucified instead of Jesus.

These accounts reflect theological ideas from Gnostic, docetic, and other early Christian sects that rejected the notion of Jesus’ physical suffering or mortality. They contrast with the canonical gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), where Jesus is clearly depicted as being crucified.

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December 8, 2024 - 1:43 pm

Get Your POPcorn ! ! !

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December 8, 2024 - 2:23 pm

Correction is:

Gospel of Barnabas – Billy Loses / Correction, Billy Wins ! ! ! But Wess is correct about the major problem with this gospel.

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December 8, 2024 - 2:35 pm

It’s technical to register that point about gospels that do not mention the resurrection. It’s also technical to register that Nate Sala did not cover the part of the debate that goes into Sumerian creation and flood stories vs the creation and flood stories of Genesis.

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December 9, 2024 - 1:05 pm

@Robert
Can you remove Colin’s 2 messages above?

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Colin Milton

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December 9, 2024 - 4:50 pm

Those gnostic texts are the origins of what became Islam. That’s why Allah is described as the All Knowing, the Knower. Islam is a gnostic tradition of Judaism and Christianity.

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Colin Milton

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December 9, 2024 - 5:06 pm

Challenging the Christian faith requires hardly any knowledge of the scriptures. Simply, if a Christian cannot perform miracles then they are not in authority by the Holy Trinity to argue about anything about it.

John 14:12

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