Bart Ehrman Blog Readers Forum

A A A
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Min search length: 3 characters / Max search length: 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_TopicIcon
Cave Canem
Avatar
janmaru

208 Posts
(Offline)
1
July 26, 2020 - 9:13 am

Pope Francis once said: “One day, we will see our animals again in the eternity of Christ. Paradise is open to all of God’s creatures.”
Well not.
It was Pope Paul VI that talking to a child who had been crying over the death of his dog said: “One day we will see our animals in the eternity of Christ”. And later on: “Animals are the smallest part of the Divine Creation, but one day we will see them again in the Mystery of Christ”.
Pope Francis, on the other hand, seemingly quoted the apostle Paul who thought Creation itself will be freed from the bondage of corruption, to enter into the glorious kingdom of God.
But even if modernity is bound to be “modern” still Catholic theology states that animals are soulless, can’t go to heaven. Different Popes recently have had different ideas. Pope John Paul II said animals have souls, but his successor, Pope Benedict XVI seemed to think the opposite.

The only thing sure, anyway, is that all Pope altogether prove the thesis of the new book of Dr. Bart Herman, “Heaven and Hell”, that ideas like heaven and hell evolved through human needs and desires changing over time.

Cave canem (da Pompei, al MANN)

Cave Canem is used, commonly, in Italy as a warning sign at the entrance of the houses to say “beware of the dog”. The writing derives from a famous mosaic found in the archaeological excavations of Pompeii.

The meaning is: if you go further than it’s upon you, it might be really dangerous.

In Mark 7:24–30 this story goes off: a Syro-Phoenician woman comes to Jesus. Jesus calls her a dog and rejects her request to heal her daughter until she gives a wit answer to Him that makes her day.
While dogs were used for bloodsports in ancient Rome and all sorts of blood “entertainment” like bull-fighting, gladiator battles, and dog battles, Jews used to call Gentiles “dogs” as a derogatory term.
Maybe they draw their belief from Exod 22:31 where dogs are seen as unclean animals since any kind of meat could be thrown at them.
Or Sam 9:8 “What is your servant, that you should look upon a dead dog such as I?”.

Dogs are generally considered worthless in the Near East since even Islam sees them as ritually impure. The majority of Muslims see dogs as filthy, wicked, sometimes even evil.

The moral conclusion is that believing in the inherency of the Bible can bring harm to your little four-legged cute friends: Cave Canem!

Forum Timezone: America/Indiana/Indianapolis
All RSSShow Stats
Administrators:
BDEhrman
FreedomBen
evgendob
Robert
Top Posters:
Steefen: 8170
Stephen: 4987
Porphyry: 1965
godspell: 1827
DavidFord: 1762
BJH1960: 1459
brenmcg: 1184
Colin Milton: 1142
Judith: 987
JAS: 948
Newest Members:
smccormick0915
jpender
bledsomi01
RockyFikes
aramshur
elainewiant
1Fredmassa
ZeldaKing2
Firstshiftvineyardguy
drlugosi
Forum Stats:
Groups: 2
Forums: 13
Topics: 2673
Posts: 49258

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 65
Members: 66328
Moderators: 0
Admins: 4
Most Users Ever Online: 3559
Currently Online: Judith
Guest(s) 23
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)