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Robert
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January 1, 2026 - 4:33 pm

Thank you so much for the direction! Let me read those books. That additional blog sounds like a great resource just like I was hoping. I guess I need to become more articulate in all of this to have open caring discussions with others that don’t have my views. Thank you again. 

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January 2, 2026 - 12:28 pm

Maureen, welcome.

Please feel free to share as much of your story as you wish.  All of us are on various journeys and quests and it helps to share experiences.   The posters here do have disagreements and lively discussions but nobody questions anybody else’s right to have their own views.   

I can only speak personally but the book that affected me most early on was ** you do not have permission to see this link **.  The latter book takes the historical figure presented in the first book and sketches how that person gradually became viewed as a divine member of the Trinity.

Both works are predicated on the fundamental idea that modern views of Jesus were the result of a process that began with the historical figure but developed over a long period of time. 

Hope this helps. 

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Robert
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Robert and Stephen, thank you for your thoughtful comments. Life is full of complexity, and this is one element.

I have read and given my son Bart’s Book  ** you do not have permission to see this link **. He states he looks forward to reading it. I hope it is a good book for him. This was a very good book for me to read, helping me see the value of separating historical information from theological information.

The subforum you mentioned ** you do not have permission to see this link ** is incredible. I have not finished reading it all, but I am experiencing many waves of emotion related to these journeys. I just don’t have words for how much this journey through fundamental Christianity caused me to suffer.

I need, however, to accept my son’s journey, whatever it is, because the universe gave him a mind and life, and I am not here to take that from him. And I want to feel that acceptance, which I don’t right now; I find myself always trying to criticize or disagree with him in an argumentative way. I believe this acceptance is where my effort is best spent, but if others have thoughts on this, I am curious how you negotiated a good life and a relationship with family members who have differing beliefs.

Thank you

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