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Highland Park United Methodist Church (adjacent to SMU) Sermons on Science and Faith
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Steefen
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August 8, 2020 - 5:47 pm

 

Stopped at 24 minutes

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Steefen
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August 8, 2020 - 5:57 pm

 

I have to pick up at 5 minutes

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janmaru

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August 8, 2020 - 6:48 pm

Steefen said

Stopped at 24 minutes  

Since all truth is from God, then everything true is from God!
But how about everything false. Isn’t it from God?
What kind of God is it?
A God that holds only truth and not falsehood is just a “small” God.

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Stephen
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August 8, 2020 - 7:54 pm

Claims there is no conflict between science and religion then spends his time recounting all the battles that have been fought between them. 

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August 10, 2020 - 4:01 pm

janmaru
Since all truth is from God,
then everything true is from God!

Steefen
Humans should aspire to truth and live within truth, where appropriate.

janmaru
But how about everything false. Isn’t it from God?

Steefen
John 8: 44

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

The devil is from god in that the former angel who became the devil was from god. The angel who became the father of lies was an angel with free will, I guess.

janmaru
A God that holds only truth and not falsehood is just a “small” God.

Steefen
Falsehood is not a term of addition, it is a term of subtraction.
A positive 5 plus a positive 5 is not smaller than a positive 5 plus a negative 5.

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janmaru

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August 14, 2020 - 5:55 pm

I don’t buy that Goodness (** you do not have permission to see this link ** ) is one of the attributes of God.

People who wrote the bible didn’t have any idea about partition and fibers, terms, and attributes overlapping.

The result is the famous statement dealing with suffering: if God is not dead then He should be distracted.

I would add, also Evil or Perverted.

Ther’s nothing wrong with it. Lies are not negative, i.e. the opposite of the truth. Lies are just truths disguised for someone who could not hold the Truth. It’s an act of mercy.

 

The story of Satan is not particularly Jewish and was imported after Babylon. Like any other dichotomy, light/darkness, truth/falsehood, etc…

Zoroaster is laughing his ass off.

I’m not the one reporting the problem of the attributes of God. From memory, I cited the “small” God problem. But it’s just academic.

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