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If the Astrological Matrix of the Solar System Isn't God, It's God's Babysitter for Us
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Steefen
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December 7, 2016 - 10:55 am

The Synastry chart showed he had a Retrograde Uranus and Retrograde Neptune conjunction conjuncting my Moon.

Our Suns conjuncted within Orb because we were born on the same day, not at the same time.
Our Composite Sun was in the 8th House. Two men giving birth to a relationship (composite chart) with Sun in the 8th house. What can be more homosexual?
Probably two men giving birth to a relationship (composite chart) with Mars or Moon in the 8th house.
His Taurus Sun was in the 7th. What is more self loving than that? The 7th house is supposed to be the house of the other, not what you are a man (Sun). So, he should have partnerships with “other” men ruled by Venus.

The Relationship (Composite Chart) has a Moon-Mars Opposition — Mars in 9th House, Moon in 3rd House.
9th House: World View / Ideals; Conscience; Aspiration; Long Trips, Distant Travel, Higher Education; Dreams
3rd House: Communication, Short Trips, Short Range Transportation; Siblings and Relatives

A forum reader richly added her experience:

Moon opposite Mars is in my experience one of the hardest to live with, since at the slight touch of moodiness, he (Mars) may irritate you and sometimes deliberately as a mean to achieve something.

What has been interesting about this Lesson in “As It Is in Heaven” is that I usually use the basic/default Synastry chart. This time I used a Synastry chart where my potential partner or partner is an outer ring to my natal chart. The same forum reader was able to quickly see his Natal Retrograde Pluto opposing my Natal Mercury. His Retrograde Pluto opposing your Mercury (he may want to change me, make me a different person). My Mercury (Communication) opposing his Retrograde Pluto would make me too clingy with words.

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December 7, 2016 - 10:59 am

Solar System,

Good morning.

(The morning after)

What’s going on?

Solar System as God answers:

You’re Touchy and irritable.

Valid during several weeks: This influence can be quite difficult. You are inclined to feel touchy and irritable and to regard almost any communication from another person as a challenge. And you will make this attitude so clear to people that they may even tread lightly around you for fear of setting you off. Anyone who crosses you will be told off in no uncertain terms.

The worst way to handle this influence, but what you are most likely to do, is to identify your own ego with what you believe or think. This will make you act as if your very life were threatened, which of course it is not. If you have to fight for your beliefs, this influence can be a help, but don’t look for a battle or create an issue where none exists.

The interpretation above is for your transit selected for today:
Mercury square Mars,
activity period from 5 December 2016 until mid-January 2017

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Since this is inner Solar System, everyone goes through this Touchy and Irritable phase for about 5 to 6 weeks.

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Sun Opposition Uranus

The opposition of composite Sun and Uranus suggests that this will be an upsetting relationship in many ways. The more traditional your ideas about the roles you play with each other, the more disturbing the relationship will be.

The central problem here is that one or the other of you will constantly challenge the other’s most cherished ideas. Another possible effect of this aspect is that the relationship will present a challenge to the standards of the community in which you live.

In a sense, this problem could help your relationship, because outside pressures might drive the two of you closer together.

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Okay, what else is in the Composite Chart. I have to put my used Robert Hand book, Planets in Composite, to use.

Pluto in the First House

[This reads like Lilith Dark Moon (Let Go and Let God).]

For Pluto in the First House, Robert Hand says, Go along with whatever is happening and do not try to fight it.

Saturn in the Fifth House: makes it rather difficult to get a love relationship off the ground. You two probably take life much too seriously, which in the long run tends to magnify problems out of all proportion to their real importance.

Pluto Trine Saturn – Can handle tough times without folding up. Can endure quite a bit of hardship from each other or from the outside world. However: too unadaptable for producing happiness

Pluto Trine Venus – There’s that homosexuality again.

You will enjoy loving and being loved. Love has an almost psycho-therapeutic effect on your both. Even a friendship with this aspect has a transforming quality.

Sexual love is very important in this relationship.

 

Composite Mars conjunct Composite Jupiter

You like to be active and to do things together.
Whatever you do together will be successful.

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December 7, 2016 - 11:08 am

When the sex is therapeutic, it’s from Jesus, it’s healing, it is saving. It is from Christ and Christ is from a Holy God.

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Now to get down to the God issues.

1
Hebrew Bible Notion of God: Is God more than what Ancient Jews wanted for their Local God, their Nation-God?

2
New Testament Notion of God: Is God more than what Roman Emperors wanted for Ancient Jews after they put down the Jewish Revolt?

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The Solar System Astrological Matrix Notion of God is based on effects on human beings (for example how this thread started). It is not based on the highest aspirations of human beings (for example, Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount).

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The Creation Notion of God:
God created the Sun.
The Sun, like all stars of its kind, was created in a nebula. A nebula does not have personhood. It is impersonal.
A God cannot be impersonal.

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December 7, 2016 - 11:10 am

So what you’re saying is:

The Astrological Matrix of the Solar System acts on the lives of human beings.

Reply: Yes. Religious people have been claiming God is in control. The control I see is the Astrological Matrix of the Solar System.

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December 7, 2016 - 11:17 am

You’re saying God acts through the astrological Matrix of the Solar System in which we spirits are incarnated into human bodies.

Reply: Yes. OR, and this is a BIG Or.
Or, that’s all the God we have.

Sure, we can conceive of God clanging two universes together to create a big bang or a big bang from a singularity; but, That Creator is not the “God” for humans. That’s the God of the set for physical existence, not the God of the actors in physical existence. That is not a God with personhood who would write The Koran or inspire the Hebrew Bible or have is Son crucified by Romans who 40 years later destroy His Temple.

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December 12, 2016 - 7:57 pm

There were synagogues with a zodiac mosaic on the floor.

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Those who authorized the zodiac to appear in a synagogue could have answered your question. If there are any academic papers/books on the topic, that would be helpful.

The zodiac is so related to the realm of incarnation, not the realm of pre-incarnated and post-incarnated existence where existence is not confined to our Sun’s Solar System matrix.

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December 12, 2016 - 8:13 pm

So, you’re saying there’s a whole different world of consciousness that sends spirits/consciousness into bodies on Earth.
In that place, there is a Super Consciousness and that Super Consciousness is not the Sun.

Reply:
Well, the I Ching (Sage) is a consciousness collective entity.
The I Ching (Sage) is not the Sun.
The I Ching (Sage) is consulted by individual incarnated entities of consciousness (people/a person).

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December 12, 2016 - 8:15 pm

The I Ching is the collective unconsciousness of Chinese culture over thousands of years?

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December 16, 2016 - 10:55 am

The Wisdom of the I Ching was developed under the auspices of the Solar System–the astrological matrix of the Solar System.

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December 16, 2016 - 11:04 am

You’re trying to find God beyond the astrological matrix of the Solar System, a God with Consciousness that transcends the Consciousness Infrastructure that our Solar System’s Astrology builds.

Well, there are two ways to approach this:
Is there Consciousness outside of our Star’s Solar System?
Is there Consciousness in the non-incarnate realm?

Answer: Don’t play Earth-Exceptionalism / Don’t be Earth-centric: yes there is Consciousness in other solar systems or between stars, also.
Answer: Yes, there is consciousness in the non-incarnate realm.

Question: The Consciousness in the non-incarnate realm, is it super-imposed upon our Solar System? Does this Heaven die when our Sun dies? We cannot just assume our spiritual realm has no cord to our Solar System if not overlaid  upon it.

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