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Is God Possible
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Lioman

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January 27, 2021 - 4:52 pm

Can God make a rock so heavy that he can not lift it?

Can God break the laws of nature??

Can God break the laws of Gravity??

A miracle is an action that that suspends the laws of nature.

Therefore God is an impossible being.

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janmaru

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January 27, 2021 - 6:10 pm

Is He omnipotent? Can He create a rock so heavy that He would not be able to lift it? So if He does it, He defies himself. And if He does not, wouldn’t He be as powerful as He claims?
Is He omniscient? If He does know the future, then He opposes any future act of will into any matter.
Is He immutable? Everything flows and changes. What is not changing is the change itself, so is it, God? And are those two separated beings?
If He is a loving and merciful being, who cares about human suffering, why are you here?
Any of these attributes can create a contradiction.
But logic works in the realm of man that can understand it. We cannot rule out a Being who goes beyond it.
Even if He was impossible, it doesn’t mean He would not be real.
And if He was real, so what?

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Stephen
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January 27, 2021 - 10:15 pm

It  doesn’t make any  sense  because it’s  not  supposed  to  make  any  sense.  It’s supposed  to  pull  your  consciousness  beyond  sense.  God  is  a  face  for  that  which  has  no  face.  The  ultimate  mystery  of being.   Best  to  either  not  think  about  it,  or  think  about  it  so doggedly  that  you  see  beyond  it, or  read  ** you do not have permission to see this link ** will  work as  well  as  Wittgenstein.)

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Poohbear

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February 24, 2021 - 1:54 am

Wrong question: better to ask
1 – can a universe create itself when it didn’t exist?
2 – why would it?

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Stephen
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February 24, 2021 - 5:14 pm

Poohbear, a creation without a creator is absurd. But maybe the universe is not a creation? Whatever you may have heard the Big Bang is not equivalent to creatio ex nihilo. The response to a question for which we currently have no answer is “I don’t know” not “insert favorite comforting explanation”.

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