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1 Enoch 9: 5 and Hebrews 4: 13
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Why I may need to read Reversing Hermon
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Dr. Michael Heiser
The authors of the gospels found 1 Enoch useful for articulating concepts.
The consensus of the early church on
Jiames VanderKam [See Jubilees: The Mermeneia Translation] has a book on early Christian Apocalyptic Literature.
Steefen
Maybe he’s talking about The Jewish Apocalyptic Heritage in Early Christianity, Volume 4, $49
There is also 1 Enoch: The Hermeneia Translation, $15.19
Heiser is interesting. He has the degrees and the languages and cites critical scholarship but his views are well nigh fundamentalist. He thinks Genesis 6 describes actual history.
James VanderKam is a well respected scholar of Jewish apocalyptic. His translation of I Enoch for Hermeneia is terrific, and unusual for this kind of thing, available at a reasonable price!
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Heiser is interesting. He has the degrees and the languages and cites critical scholarship but his views are well nigh fundamentalist. He thinks Genesis 6 describes actual history.
Right, and he apparently believes that this race of giants was wiped out in the flood. Thus he stops short of believing that this race of giants continued to exist until modern times, which if I recall may be Steefen’s view (see ** you do not have permission to see this link **.
Thanks for the revisit. I had forgotten about Efraim Palvanov’s book which I still want to read. (Now there’s a second volume.)
I don’t get it. How is the value of these marvelous stories augmented in any way by insisting that they describe historical events? I mean, jeezus! Gods lust after human women, impregnate same, produce giant progeny who devastate the earth, causing the High God to come down and kick a**. Yeah that really happened. Insisting that it really happened is sad.
Steefen
Maybe he’s talking about The Jewish Apocalyptic Heritage in Early Christianity, Volume 4, $49
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Chapter 2: 1 Enoch, Enochic Motifs, and Enoch in Early Christian Literature
pages 32 – 101
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1 Enoch 9: 5 and ** you do not have permission to see this link **
So, ballpark, we date 1 Enoch before Hebrews and therefore before Gospel of Mark
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The text itself, for example, makes a contrast between the resurrected Christ “in heaven” “who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord” and the version on earth, where “there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven.” (NIV version)
Despite this, some scholars, such as ** you do not have permission to see this link **
Wikipedia entry for Epistle to the Hebrews
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