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My DaddySaid The Devil Gets into People
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Steefen
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August 31, 2017 - 6:36 am
My Daddy Said the Devil Gets into People

Christian Forgiveness AND Astrological Insight Are Needed, Especially When “The Devil”/The Solar System Gets into People
Case:
Person A is rude and belittling toward Person B.
Person B tells Person A that behavior is not what I want to experience and will not experience. Where we visit will be places where you cannot be rude and belittling.
(Being rude and belittling to another person might hurt that person’s feelings.)
Person A, still taken over by “The Devil” says, “Fine, get out.”
Person B leaves.
Person A and Person B are no longer on speaking terms.
= = =
Those who are into Astrology, especially those who have to hear key words to code it into Astrological terms, should pick up “hurt feelings” as what?
Answer: Chiron: Wounded Healer
= = =
SOLUTION/ASTROLOGICAL INSIGHT
Person B is experiencing a long term transit of Chiron something Venus that started on April 19th, 2017.
The above incident occurred July 30th, 2017. (Person A did read this transit back in April, but Person B’s ill-mannered behavior came on so fast with such hostility.)

* * *Transiting Chiron Trine Natal Venus * * *
Valid during many months:
This influence indicates no *particular* event [it’s going to spring on you, can’t plan for it other than knowing you’re now on the haunted house ride]
but rather a small, hardly noticeable incident that one could so easily overlook or cover up
that in many cases it is not consciously acknowledged; and, therefore, remains unrecognized.
[So, this is why it is so easy to miss the dangerous “accident”.]

Such an incident is to be expected while
window shopping
at the cinema/theater
enjoying the nightlife or
otherwise amused.
Friends, acquaintances, or perhaps your partner are possibly with you.

Through a careless remark, a slight clumsiness, or a wrong word without bad intent [or with bad intent given an insulting/sarcastic personality],
you suddenly, **suddenly** find yourself in an embarrassing situation or feel yourself hurt or belittled. Characteristically, only **you** are affected as a particular sensitivity was disturbed [who knows what’s going on in the other person’s chart to wound Chiron the Healer in you?]
The other people will probably not have noticed anything out of the ordinary.

If you react in an injured manner [even though you were injured], if you demand apologies or become aggressive, this will probably only cause FURTHER unnecessary or necessary concern. As you have already often experienced similar situations before and are presumably aware of the fact that this incident was completely unintended, you will keep yourself under control, keep quiet about the affair, and not let it show [if it isn’t too hostile].

It is probably better to do this. Why spoil everyone’s fun? [Embarrassing someone, hurting someone’s feelings, belittling them is fun for others?] Nevertheless, you should not just leave things at that and should later, at the right moment, talk it over. You should at the very least find a quiet moment to think over the incident as it points to a particular oversensitivity
[We were in the Buick Electra 225. My dad was driving, mom in the front passenger seat, brother at the right window and I at the left window of the back seat. “If you had YOUR godmother’s last name, your name would be Stephen Stephens.” The three of them laughed. After about 30 seconds. “Why are you crying?” …]
and could lead to a complete overreaction.
Therefore, teach Christian love, compassion, and forgiveness and Astrological insight such as the reading of this transit.
Amen.

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Steefen
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August 31, 2017 - 6:52 am

Read The Bacchae by Euripides.
The Solar System–and its effect on human life–is not to be ignored.

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September 1, 2017 - 9:43 am
Twas brillig, and the slithy toves 
      Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: 
All mimsy were the borogoves, 
      And the mome raths outgrabe. 
 
“Beware the Jabberwock, my son! 
      The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! 
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun 
      The frumious Bandersnatch!” 
 
He took his vorpal sword in hand; 
      Long time the manxome foe he sought— 
So rested he by the Tumtum tree 
      And stood awhile in thought. 
 
And, as in uffish thought he stood, 
      The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame, 
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood, 
      And burbled as it came! 
 
One, two! One, two! And through and through 
      The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! 
He left it dead, and with its head 
      He went galumphing back. 
 
“And hast thou slain the Jabberwock? 
      Come to my arms, my beamish boy! 
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!” 
      He chortled in his joy. 
 
’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves 
      Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: 
All mimsy were the borogoves, 
      And the mome raths outgrabe.
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Stephen
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September 1, 2017 - 12:53 pm

Through long nursery nights he stood
By my bed unwearying,
Loomed gigantic, formless, queer,
Purring in my haunted ear
That same hideous nightmare thing,
Talking, as he lapped my blood,
In a voice cruel and flat,
Saying for ever, “Cat! .
.
.
Cat! .
.
.
Cat!.
.
.

That one word was all he said,
That one word through all my sleep,
In monotonous mock despair.

Nonsense may be light as air,
But there’s Nonsense that can keep
Horror bristling round the head,
When a voice cruel and flat
Says for ever, “Cat! .
.
.
Cat! .
.
.
Cat!.
.
.

He had faded, he was gone
Years ago with Nursery Land,
When he leapt on me again
From the clank of a night train,
Overpowered me foot and head,
Lapped my blood, while on and on
The old voice cruel and flat
Says for ever, “Cat! .
.
.
Cat! .
.
.
Cat!.
.
.

Morphia drowsed, again I lay
In a crater by High Wood:
He was there with straddling legs,
Staring eyes as big as eggs,
Purring as he lapped my blood,
His black bulk darkening the day,
With a voice cruel and flat,
“Cat! .
.
.
Cat! .
.
.
Cat! .
.
.
Cat!.
.
.
” he said, “Cat! .
.
.
Cat!.
.
.

When I’m shot through heart and head,
And there’s no choice but to die,
The last word I’ll hear, no doubt,
Won’t be “Charge!” or “Bomb them out!”
Nor the stretcher-bearer’s cry,
“Let that body be, he’s dead!”
But a voice cruel and flat
Saying for ever, “Cat! .
.
.
Cat! .
.
.
Cat!”

-Robert Graves “A Child’s Nightmare”

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Steefen
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September 4, 2017 - 8:39 pm

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Cool post, thank you!
 
Even the so-called ‘benign’ transits or progressions involving Chiron can cause a fresh hurt or uncover an old one.
 
When you know someone’s Chiron is being triggered, you can be more tolerant and not overreact to them in a way that causes or prolongs Chironic tit-for-tat hurting.
 
You can try and spot when Chiron is going to aspect your own chart and make sure you use it to go within and uproot those old hurts and bring them into the light of day for your own examination and purging, if possible.  Not just let them erupt onto other people who will wonder where *that* came from.

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September 4, 2017 - 8:41 pm

Steefen

The Chiron Trine Venus base interpretation is by Robert Hand. In 2013, he was designated as a doctor of philosophy (Ph.D.) by The Catholic University of America.

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Steefen
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September 4, 2017 - 8:50 pm

The transit came up on a regular natal and transit chart. I want to look at Hellenistic/Traditional Astrology (Vettius Valens, 120 – 175 CE), in particular the Time Lord System and see if the transit appears in a profected bi-wheel.

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Steefen
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September 4, 2017 - 9:02 pm

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Cool post, thank you!  Smiley
 
Even the so-called ‘benign’ transits or progressions involving Chiron can cause a fresh hurt or uncover an old one.
 
When you know someone’s Chiron is being triggered, you can be more tolerant and not overreact to them in a way that causes or prolongs Chironic tit-for-tat hurting.
 
Me
In this case, the person doing the hurt is unapologetically uneducated about the solar system and Carl Jung.
Such ignorance leads to sins and trespasses.
 

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September 5, 2017 - 9:33 am

A Different Person Replied

I have Venus in Scorpio Trine Chiron in Pisces: love is really a big issue for me. Many hurts and healings.

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