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NT is true. But, is it diverse enough?
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janmaru

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January 16, 2021 - 9:29 pm

The New Testament has been always used to justify conflicts, poverty, and inequality.

Also it does not speak about the age of the Internet and globalization.

If not, maybe, for Matthew (28:18-20): “And Jesus came and said to them: -All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations…”

But is The New Testament diverse enough?

I would highlight a few points:

  • It fails to reflect the diversified structures of society. 
  • It misrepresents the poor.
  • Diverse people, like in the Jean-Paul Sartre famous sentence, are depicted as hell. (1)
  • There is no attention to fashion as the social mean for multi-culturalism.
  • The minorities are not portrayed in a positive light.
  • Stereotypes of Jews are reinforced, confirming the appearance, values, and behaviors of the people of that time.
  • The NT accepts the power relations between actors and does not expose the political and social injustices.
  • It justifies the actions and behaviors of those in power with the fantastic story of the resurrection.
  • It is not about truth-telling, and it is not addicted to factual accuracy, checking, and rechecking.
  • It does not create an environment where everyone is free to admit and correct mistakes.
  • Stories are incomplete and significant facts are suppressed.
  • There is no space for valid and reasonable disagreement. 
  • It does not talk about humanity and solidarity. Rich people are demonized and described with pejorative terms.
  • It is not open-minded and thoughtful.

 

(1) Jean-Paul Sartre: “Hell is other people.” Huis Clos, 1943.

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Stephen
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January 19, 2021 - 9:08 am

Define  diversity.

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janmaru

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January 19, 2021 - 10:16 am

Those who still remember the good old days of Fascism in Italy, are well informed of the few words such as “typical.”
There is a typical approach to reality and it is the only reality given: it’s the idea of including or involving people belonging to different social and ethnic backgrounds and sexual orientations.
A politically correct way is to say that schools, institutions, and society should be mostly black or Hispanic. Even tho 100 percent is, really, black or Hispanic.
A typical statement is: Africa is an extremely diverse area.

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Stephen
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January 19, 2021 - 10:28 am

Thanks but not very helpful.  Your  original  post  seems  to concern  itself with pointing out  that  the  apple  is  not  an  orange.   I’ll  certainly  grant  that  the  composers  of  the NT  were  not  Woke.

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janmaru

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January 19, 2021 - 10:39 am

Does it give the impression that it is all garbage?
I don’t want to push Dr. Bart Ehrman out of business.

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Stephen
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January 19, 2021 - 11:47 am

Does it give the impression that it is all garbage?

Do  you  think  it  is  all  garbage?   

I  can  only  speak  personally  of  course  but  attempts  to  make  the  NT  relevant  and  applicable  to  the  modern  day  are  of  no  interest  to  me  at  all.    On the  contrary it  is  the  text’s  “alienness”  to  modern  thought  that  is  its  very  source  of  interest.   

Consider  that  most  all  of  the  traditional  doctrines  of Christianity  formed  in  a  concept  system  radically  different  from  our  post-enlightenment  views.  What  happened  is  that these  views  were  redefined as  our  conceptual  framework  shifted,  apparently  mostly  unconsciously.   

To  give  a  specific  example  most  believers  today  who  accept  the  doctrine  of  the  “Virgin  Birth”  think  in  terms  of  a  “miracle”  of  genetics.    And  that’s  because  moderns  are  trained  to  require  an  explanation  consisting  of  a  description  of  the  processes  involved  in  the  thing  being  explained.   But  when  the  ancients  asked for  an  explanation  they  expected  a  story,  A  True  Story.    And  the  quality  of  a  story  is  that  it  can  be  both  literal  and  figurative,  categories moderns  tend  to  see  as  distinct  and  even  antagonistic.    A  True  Story  was  a  story  that  not  only  actually  happened  but  very  importantly  also  had  meaning.    They  were  not  blind  to  the  allegorical  and  metaphoric  aspects  of  the  Virgin  Birth  but also  took  it  quite  literally.    It  is  we  moderns  who  who  forced  by  our  presuppositions  to  make  a   false  choice. 

But  there  are  consequences.    Can  it  be  said  that  a  modern  believer  in  the  doctrine  of  the  Virgin  Birth  really  believes  in  the  same  doctrine  as  the  first  century  believer?   Can  these  concepts  be  adapted  without  being  destroyed? 

Anyway  this  is  my  itch  to  scratch.    Aren’t you  glad  you  asked?          

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janmaru

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January 20, 2021 - 10:22 am

Anything taken away from its original context bears different meanings.
In fact, like in Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle, the very attempt to measure things conflicts with the measurement itself.
And I would go further: the reader might choose some meaning or another, but the idea, in itself, is empty.
The conclusion is, therefore, that there is nothing to preserve. And there’s no need to do that.

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