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Stephen
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November 7, 2024 - 1:48 pm

The People have spoken. Now I suppose we will find out if our democracy is truly foolproof. The ‘Conniving Dimwit’ is a familiar character in American culture as is the inevitable pack of his Enablers. But in an election we don’t just hire a President. We hire an Administration to which we assign responsibility for our institutions. Americans have consciously, deliberately, turned our Justice System over to crooks, our Economy over to thieves and swindlers, our Scientific and Medical Establishments over to Quacks.

I suppose some measure of sadness and anger will come later but right now I feel oddly detached. I thought our country was better than this. I thought as a culture we had progressed further than we obviously have. For the first time in my life this country seems alien to me. Like there might not be a place for me anymore.

This brings with it a strange liberation. I made my choice. I take responsibility for my choice. Will the winners in this contest do the same? I believe in democracy. Even a foolish choice is better than none. But the politics of exclusion have freed me from responsibility for what comes after. Yet I will remain to help pick up the shattered pieces. Maybe help build something better.

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Stephen
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November 12, 2024 - 2:00 pm

Here are a couple videos from Christian apologist Randall Rouser. Even though he is a conservative Evangelical, he opposed Trump. Rouser addresses the issue as to why so many Evangelicals did support Trump.

Although I am now on a completely different side of the aisle, I have a great deal of sympathy for this minority of believers. It can’t be an easy place to be in a community where the vast majority consider their politics identical with their religious views. The church as a wholly owned subsidiary of the Republican party. When they’re resented and marginalized where do they run to?

What single community in our society, ostensibly based on values other than the values of the market place, has more power and influence than the church? Even now in a secularizing America? Think of the alternate vision of society they could proclaim, pointing to something beyond our covetous and rapacious empire! But what community, now having chosen expediency over witness, more compromised?

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Colin Milton

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November 13, 2024 - 9:09 am

Lord have mercy, I don’t even understand the question yet.

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November 13, 2024 - 4:33 pm

Who is B F Sklnner?

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Judith

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November 13, 2024 - 6:54 pm

Stephen, it has been a break from politics having The Forum to escape completely but now this.

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Jill_L

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November 15, 2024 - 9:54 am

Just one more thing. I work for a true blue and I am married to the anti true blue. When caught between the two staunch opponents I decided to simply not vote. THAT was liberating. I just took on a attitude of observation rather than participation. I did vote early in the end, but I maintained the detachment. That is why I posted Proverbs 27:19. It’s so much simpler and allows one to move on with life. Amen.

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Stephen
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November 15, 2024 - 11:43 am

Stephen, it has been a break from politics having The Forum to escape completely but now this.

I don’t expect this thread to be active very long.

Not much time left for these escape attempts…
– Coil, The Dreamer is Still Asleep

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Colin Milton

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November 17, 2024 - 6:33 am

After Joseph had laid the body in the tomb he was visited by an angel in a dream. The angel told him to sacrifice the body on the alter. Joseph woke up and ran to the Sanhedrin and told them “Abraham and Iasaac have commanded us to sacrifice the body on the alter.” The high priest agreed and said “it is better that one man die than the whole nation be destroyed. It is better that we commit one sin than all the sins of the world not be forgiven.” And the Sadducees and Pharisees were furious at the decision so the high priest said “if we are forbidden the angel of the Lord will be there to rebuke us” So they went quickly to the tomb like a thief in night during the Sabbath. When they had reached the tomb they rolled away the stone and saw that he was not dead but that he had risen. The high priest said “seize him the Lamb of God and if we are forbidden the angel of the Lord will be at the alter to rebuke us.” They seized him and went quickly to the Temple as sunrise was coming near. The angel of the Lord was not there so they performed the sin offering. The high priest said “return the bones back to the tomb but do not roll the stone. If we were forbidden the angel of the Lord will roll the stone.” So they went quickly during the sunrise and laid the bones back into the tomb. They told no one and kept this secret to this very day as they were terrified.

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