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Psychology of Aging and Faith
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MicahLayne

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April 29, 2025 - 7:55 am

Good morning! I’m 41 years old and was raised United Pentecostal by two loving and deeply devoted fundamentalist Christians. I have since moved away from some of the fundamentalist ideas, and recently shared this with my father. He is an extremely gentle soul. His response to me was that he was simply too old to change his mind about anything now. I’m not trying to persuade him away from his beliefs. He’s not harming anyone. But it does make me curious about the psychology involved in aging and religious belief systems. At what point do people cross that threshold when they are not intellectually curious anymore or feel like it’s too late or they don’t have the mental energy to wrestle with their faith anymore? Has anyone here ever studied this?

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BJH1960

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April 29, 2025 - 8:22 am

Welcome, Micah, to the Readers Forum.

As a former member of the UPC, I understand very well what it means that you shared what you did with him, which can’t have been an easy thing, as well as your dad’s measured reaction.

Very good questions. I’ll start looking to see if there are studies out there, and if I find anything, I’ll let you know.

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MicahLayne

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April 29, 2025 - 8:34 am

Thank you! It’s nice to hear there is someone here who has a good understanding of my background too!

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BJH1960

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April 29, 2025 - 9:51 am

My pleasure.

The following may address the questions you raised:

• Faith Development in Later Life (Strieb, 2005)
• Critical Life Events and Religious Development (Hunsberger, Pratt & Pancer, 2002)
• Cognitive Conservation in Religious Engagement (Park & Gutierrez, 2013)
• Religious Struggles and Religious Doubt in Adulthood (Krause & Ellison, 2009)
• Spiritual Struggles in Older Adulthood (Exline, Yali & Sanderson, 2000)

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MicahLayne

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April 29, 2025 - 10:51 am

Wonderful. I can’t wait to explore these sources. Thank you again!

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BJH1960

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April 29, 2025 - 11:35 am

No problem at all.

If you’re interested in sharing your story, we’ve got a special thread for it here:

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Porphyry

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April 29, 2025 - 11:38 am

I don’t have scholarship to point to, but it seems intuitive to me that the devout will find it harder to give up their religious beliefs as they age. The older you get the more invested you are in your beliefs, and this for at least two reasons:

First, you have literally invested more time and energy in it. Every time you go to Church, every time you say prayers at night, every time you make some personal sacrifice to live out your faith, you are that much more invested.

Second, insofar as your religion promises some comfort in the face of death (like the promise of an afterlife) the nearer you get to death, the more you will rely on those religious beliefs for comfort.

The more invested you are in something the harder it is not just to let it go but even to envision letting it go.

Additionally, I suspect religious beliefs become habits. They give us fixed points we are used to falling back on amidst uncertainty, like a banister in a house we’ve lived in for decades that we instinctively grab for in the dark; the difference is if you make a mistake with the banister (and grab for it after it gets taken down), you are promptly corrected by reality, but you don’t get that immediate correction when you grab for an unverifiable belief that isn’t fact.

I doubt there is a magical, externally observable threshold past which a person cannot change his religious beliefs (just because human psychology is too complicated), but I suspect that the longer you have believed your religion, the more you have given to the practice of your religion, and the more you come to rely on that religion for comfort, the more difficult will it be to countenance the possibility that it is false, until at some point you find it simply unthinkable.

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Stephen
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April 29, 2025 - 1:19 pm

Welcome, Micah.

…At what point do people cross that threshold when they are not intellectually curious anymore or feel like it’s too late or they don’t have the mental energy to wrestle with their faith anymore?

I think no longer being curious or questioning is as good a definition of being “old” as any. The sad part is when you encounter people like this who are not chronologically aged. Being a person who experienced a profound change in outlook I’ve always been curious as to why some people change their minds and others don’t. No matter how firm we are in our beliefs we should always be able to at least consider the possibility that we don’t have all the facts. That we could be mistaken. Senescence is inevitable but let’s not rush to meet it!

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Robert
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April 29, 2025 - 2:10 pm
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Stephen
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April 29, 2025 - 2:25 pm

Is it that they become more open-minded or that they become less and less sure of anything?

I remember the lines from a Bruce Cockburn song.

All these years of thinking
have ended up like this
In front of all this beauty
understanding nothing.

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Porphyry

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April 29, 2025 - 2:53 pm

this is not my own personal experience.

Well, I suppose it wasn’t true in my experience either.

I suppose for myself I’d chalk that up to two things:

First, I don’t get the same emotional investment in things simply from putting time into them. I know this is little bit weird about me. I have worked on computer programs for months and then realized I hadn’t thoroughly planned it out and that what I had been doing was consequently fatally flawed, and then simply walked away from thousands of lines of code with a shrug. Once I realized the problem, there was no period of denial or desperately trying to find a way to salvage it, but simply a resigned, “well, it is what it is”.

Second, my engagement with religion was not principally devotional. I mean, I sincerely believed it, and I did practice it, but no one would identify me as having an especially profound piety. My engagement was principally intellectual, academic, and driven by curiosity.

A final consideration is that I’m not sure that, had certain incidentals been different, I would have felt the freedom to inquire as hard as I did. I mean, a whole host of factors had begun to dissolve my deep sense of tribal alliance with fellow Catholics; I want to be clear, this isn’t the reason I decided it was not true, but it may have been a but-for condition of my eventual apostasy. Had I felt the social bonds as strongly as I had earlier in life, I might not have followed the inquiry where I did.

Does any of that sound like something that might overlap with you or your father?

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Robert
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April 29, 2025 - 8:06 pm
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Judith

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April 30, 2025 - 9:51 am

Robert, I hate your spending those ten years trying to make it work though perhaps necessary in order to move on. I love knowing now that if I could go back and do things differently, it would not be possible as I’m not who I was back then. It’s all as it had to be. Hope that makes sense.

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Porphyry

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April 30, 2025 - 3:28 pm

I was an intellectual, an agnostic, an atheist, opponent of Christians, but my conversion was sudden and dramatic, all consuming, revolutionary for my life.

I hadn’t realized you were a convert. Have you discussed that process elsewhere on the forum?

it was an ideal communal life of prayer and service to the poorest of the poor for the first four years

I will say, in some weird way, the monastic life calls to me even now. Not that there is any world where that would ever make sense, but I have in my mind an idealized image of what it can be; I’ve caught glimpses of it through the low archway; something about it is captivating, fascinating, alluring.

Religion aside (insofar as you can ever set religion aside when discussing the merits of the religious life), it is appealing at some deep level.

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April 30, 2025 - 3:59 pm
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Judith

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April 30, 2025 - 9:44 pm

Robert: “It was all meaningful growth for me (and my subsequent children)…”

We had the means to bring up our sons in such a way that began to alarm me. As Jane Fonda put it, they would have been “players”. My husband’s work involved a lot of travel that made it possible to change all that. I wanted God to like them and succeeded in having them become very different. Now in my prayers I can refer to my remaining son as “our son”.
I’m wondering if you might have brought up your children in the same way.

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Robert
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May 1, 2025 - 5:37 am
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Colin Milton

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May 17, 2025 - 7:15 am

I (subject) have been studying (perfect progressive aspect) this phenomenon (direct object and substitute pronoun for “psychology of aging and faith”) for 24 years from 2001-2025. (adverbial phrase of time necessary for a perfect progressive aspect)

Elderly people are not motivated to learn anything new because what they have known has successfully brought them to elderly age. That is a conservative perspective. Don’t try to fix what has not been broken.

Some people though like to wax and polish their show-car that lives in a garage and continually upgrade their engine and interior. Those kind of people have a liberal perspective and would be open to new ideas much more in comparison to the conservative people.

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Judith

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May 17, 2025 - 8:43 am

Robert #9: Truth seekers?

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Robert
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May 17, 2025 - 9:38 am
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