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Judith

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June 17, 2022 - 8:23 am

No one has mentioned any of Professor Ehrman’s books yet. I’m thinking How Jesus Became God might have been considered for #4 (Name a book that changed you) except, as a believer, it only provided me with a way to understand other points of view. 

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Jill_L

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June 17, 2022 - 8:30 am

Robert said

Jill_L said

 

5. Pillars of the Earth, by Ken Follett

Loved that book! And the sequel. I heard there was ** you do not have permission to see this link **. So many books, so little time.

  

Yes, I remember it as a real page turner. I’m embarrassed to say I don’t remember much of it now except the building of the cathedral, the community surrounding the cathedral and the woolen merchants. I felt it made a strong statement about the value of community though and how much can be accomplished by working together. 

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June 17, 2022 - 8:31 am

Judith said
No one has mentioned any of Professor Ehrman’s books yet. I’m thinking How Jesus Became God might have been considered for #4 (Name a book that changed you) except, as a believer, it only provided me with a way to understand other points of view. 

  

By the time I became familiar with Dr. Ehrman’s books and Great Courses lectures, I was already somewhat familiar with the basic issues. Thus, I did not find his works so much a revelation as a clarification.

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June 17, 2022 - 8:41 am

Jill_L said

Robert said

Jill_L said

 

5. Pillars of the Earth, by Ken Follett

Loved that book! And the sequel. I heard there was ** you do not have permission to see this link **. So many books, so little time.

  

Yes, I remember it as a real page turner. I don’t remember much of it now — the building of the cathedral, the community surrounding the cathedral and the merchant market. I felt it made a strong statement about the value of community though and how much can be accomplished by working together. 

  

I wanted to say I don’t remember much of it now — the building of the cathedral, the community surrounding the cathedral and the merchant market. I felt it made a strong statement about the value of community though and how much can be accomplished by working together.

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June 17, 2022 - 9:30 am

Judith said
No one has mentioned any of Professor Ehrman’s books yet. I’m thinking How Jesus Became God might have been considered for #4 (Name a book that changed you) except, as a believer, it only provided me with a way to understand other points of view. 

  

I first read the Historical Jesus and the text book gave a fair quick overview; I really got into the Ehrman fan club though after How an Itinerant Preacher Became God. Now I am very much interested in how the Bible came to be in it’s present form. So I guess in that sense that book has changed me. I love what historical context analysis can bring out in understanding; and understanding the polemics involved. The Bible is just packed with humanity.

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June 17, 2022 - 10:26 am

Jill: “The Bible is just packed with humanity.”

Also, for some of us, reading the Bible is an experience like no other. Steven Colbert said something to the effect that the words just spoke to him when in crisis. For me there was a time of despair – as in every life – and, when turning to the Bible, exactly what was needed – “Lean not unto thine own understanding.” – made it possible to hang on. 

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June 17, 2022 - 5:46 pm

What about movies?

Anyone want to go through the same questions swapping out “book” for “movie”?

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June 17, 2022 - 7:18 pm

Phoof, phoof.  Is this mic on?

Bueller?  Bueller?

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Jill_L

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June 17, 2022 - 7:58 pm

Judith said
Jill: “The Bible is just packed with humanity.”

Also, for some of us, reading the Bible is an experience like no other. Steven Colbert said something to the effect that the words just spoke to him when in crisis. For me there was a time of despair – as in every life – and, when turning to the Bible, exactly what was needed – “Lean not unto thine own understanding.” – made it possible to hang on. 

  

I can relate to that, but I still have questions. Although I would not consider myself an agnostic.

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June 17, 2022 - 8:05 pm

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Phoof, phoof.  Is this mic on?

  

1. Gone with the Wind. An aunt thought I was old enough when it finally came to a neighboring town.

2. Sound of Music. 

3. Ikiru

4. My Dinner with Andre

5. The Angel and the Badman (free on YouTube)

6. Psycho

7. All about Eve

8 Anna Karenina (BBC 1977 and free on YouTube)

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June 17, 2022 - 8:15 pm
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Jill_L

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June 17, 2022 - 8:25 pm

Robert said

 

 

Speaking of books, I can’t believe I forgot to mention The Brothers Karamozov, my all-time favorite book. And I’m sorry to say that I have to disagree with Jill about Crime & Punishment.

  

Well, to be honest Robert, I didn’t finish the book. I just had to put it down. I found his torment nauseating and I just wanted to tell him to get over it! Maybe nausea was the object?

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June 17, 2022 - 8:34 pm
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Judith

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June 17, 2022 - 8:48 pm

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Brazil is a great film, very unusual role for Robert DeNiro.

  

Rotten Tomatoes raves over it!

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June 17, 2022 - 8:51 pm
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CEJ

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June 17, 2022 - 9:27 pm

Judith said

CEJ said

Phoof, phoof.  Is this mic on?

  

1. Gone with the Wind. An aunt thought I was old enough when it finally came to a neighboring town.

2. Sound of Music. 

3. Ikiru

4. My Dinner with Andre

5. The Angel and the Badman (free on YouTube)

6. Psycho

7. All about Eve

8 Anna Karenina (BBC 1977 and free on YouTube)

  

1.  Gone with the Wind

Great movie that hasn’t well aged thematically, but in all other respects, it is ageless.  Released in 1939, a golden year of movie making.

2. Sound of Music

Great music and photography.

3. Ikiru

New one to me.  Looked it up on IMDB. Seems dark.

4. My Dinner with Andre

I need to watch.

5. Angel and the Badman

Watched a clip.  Think I’ve seen it before.  Filmed in Monument Valley, like so many of Wayne’s films were, including his 1939  breakthrough, Stagecoach.  In Stagecoach, they are all on a long trek in a stagecoach.  But if you know Monument Valley, they really were just running around in circles. 

My favorite Wayne movie is Red River.

6.  Pyscho

Not a fan either.  If I recall, the supposed blood in the shower was actually chocolate syrup.  When it comes to Hitchcock, give me Rear Window or North by Northwest.

7.  All about Eve

Meh.

8. Anna Karenina (BBC)

I haven’t seen it.

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June 17, 2022 - 9:41 pm

Robert said

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Phoof, phoof.  Is this mic on?

Bueller?  Bueller?

Much harder to answer ’cause at my age I have trouble remembering which movies I’ve seen. I can say, however, that the 1966 movie version of Fahrenheit 451 is a true classic, especially the ending, which is quite a tribute to the intimate internalization of books.

Speaking of books, I can’t believe I forgot to mention The Brothers Karamozov, my all-time favorite book. And I’m sorry to say that I have to disagree with Jill about Crime & Punishment.

  

I haven’t seen Fahrenheit 451 or read The Brothers Karamozov.  They’re on the list.

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June 18, 2022 - 12:28 am

OK.  My list:

1. What was the first movie you remember?

The Wizard of Oz.

One of the networks would show it annually.  The first movie I recall going out to see (at a drive-in) is Mary Poppins.

2. What was the first movie you bought for yourself?

I bought Lawrence of Arabia on VHS.  It came on two tapes and cost an astounding $80.  And it hadn’t been restored yet.

3. What was a movie you thought of as a discovery that nobody else seemed to know about?

Can’t think of one.

4. Name a movie that changed you.

From time to time, a movie will change my mind about something.  But change me?  Nah.  I yam what I yam.

5. Name a movie recommended by a friend that turned out to be really good.

Lots of them.

6. Name the weirdest movie you’ve ever watched.

Salvadore Dali’s Un chien andalou.

7. Name a classic movie that everyone tells you is a work of genius that you utterly detest.

I recognize the genius of Citizen Kane, but technical craft is all it has.

8. What is the movie you own that you treasure most?

Lawrence of Arabia.  It’s been restored and is available on Amazon to stream.  I remember first seeing it at the Pillow Theater on Cannery Row in Monterey.  It blew me away then as a young man and still captivates me now as an old coot.

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June 18, 2022 - 6:40 am

Robert: “Dostoyevsky describes Rodion’s thought processes and illness so well . . .”

Thanks for pointing that out. Hermann Hesse is my favorite writer for following inner workings i.e. thought. I don’t know if you’ve ever read “Demian. ” My all time favorite in that vein. ** you do not have permission to see this link **

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Judith

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June 18, 2022 - 8:54 am

Jill_L said
Robert: “Dostoyevsky describes Rodion’s thought processes and illness so well .

  

Jill, is Hermann Hess comparable to Tolstoy and Trollope in developing characters we can thoroughly identify with and understand so well, we would do exactly as they did given the same situations?

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