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Spirits Do Exist. Life Impressions Are Left Behind after Death. Medical Intuition. Scholars May Not Agree but They Are in Error. Psychic Kids and Adults. What is Psychic about Christianity, then?
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Steefen
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February 27, 2021 - 1:54 pm

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February 27, 2021 - 2:00 pm

Any healing in the gospels would require medical intuition.

The healing activities in the first century could be applied to making Jesus a historical figure when he actually was not a historical figure.

The claim that Vespasian healed was applied to Jesus.

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Biblical scholar ** you do not have permission to see this link **, he describes an important figure from the first century without first revealing he is writing about the stories attached to Apollonius of Tyana:

Even before he was born, it was known that he would be someone special. A supernatural being informed his mother that the child she was to conceive would not be a mere mortal but would be divine. He was born miraculously, and he became an unusually precocious young man. As an adult he left home and went on an itinerant preaching ministry, urging his listeners to live, not for the material things of this world, but for what is spiritual. He gathered a number of disciples around him, who became convinced that his teachings were divinely inspired, in no small part because he himself was divine. He proved it to them by doing many miracles, healing the sick, casting out demons, and raising the dead. But at the end of his life he roused opposition, and his enemies delivered him over to the Roman authorities for judgment. Still, after he left this world, he returned to meet his followers in order to convince them that he was not really dead but lived on in the heavenly realm. Later some of his followers wrote books about him

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February 27, 2021 - 2:02 pm

So, if Vespasian was not psychic and the healings were staged:

a) the men he healed really did not have problems
b) there was a psychic, medical intuitive and healer who actually did the healings for Vespasian.

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February 27, 2021 - 2:18 pm

I am watching this on A&E, Hulu.

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February 27, 2021 - 2:27 pm

Terrible. There are more people into early Christianity than pederasts left in Greece.

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February 27, 2021 - 9:07 pm

Why do people still fall for this stuff?   Is  the  vision of reality presented the sciences simply too much for some folks?   Are they so overwhelmed that they prefer phony mysteries to authentic ones?  And there are real  mysteries.

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March 2, 2021 - 12:25 am

Stephen said
Why do people still fall for this stuff?   Is  the  vision of reality presented the sciences simply too much for some folks?   Are they so overwhelmed that they prefer phony mysteries to authentic ones?  And there are real  mysteries.

  

LOL. One of the mentors to the children has a degree from Columbia University in Clinical Psychology. The other mentor has been hired by the FBI numerous times. Your put down carries NO ACADEMIC and PROFESSIONAL WEIGHT.

Second, what lack of sympathy you have for parents that have to live with children and raise them with trust and support.
What lack of sympathy you have for the children who are more challenged than the at-a-loss parents.

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March 2, 2021 - 12:26 am

Third, these talents and skills are beneficial. These children grow up to be medical intuitives and support for criminal investigators.

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March 2, 2021 - 12:37 am

Fourth, the majority of critical scholars, hopefully will always take an interdisciplinary approach to this subject matter, appreciating what’s happening in other academic towers, not treating their tower like a silo.

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Furthermore, this information still begs the question, how many of the healers and alleged healers of the first century had not magic but these psychic gifts? We CANNOT dismiss psychic talents as non-historical, not part of human potential.

These gifts would likely increase as one advance for ordinary human to prophet to Son of God  or angel/archangel Son of God, and even soon-to-be emperor and Pontifex Maximus, (or monks, priests, contemplatives, and nuns).

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And what is your opinion of the Miracle of Our Lady of Fatima?

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March 2, 2021 - 4:41 pm

Steefen 

LOL. One of the mentors to the children has a degree from Columbia University in Clinical Psychology. The other mentor has been hired by the FBI numerous times. Your put down carries NO ACADEMIC and PROFESSIONAL WEIGHT. 

Awed by credentials, are you?  Academicians can be just as credulous as anyone else.   That’s why we rely on evidence to support claims,  not anecdotes  on  PSYCHIC  KIDS  on  A&E.  (It’s amazing how psychic powers disappear when subjected to double-blind clinical trials.)    Your awe  of credentials apparently doesn’t  apply  to  the consensus  of  NT  scholars  who  take  the  view  that  Jesus  was  a  historical  figure  who  lived  in  the  first  third  of  the  first  century.

Second, what lack of sympathy you have for parents that have to live with children and raise them with trust and support.
What lack of sympathy you have for the children who are more challenged than the at-a-loss parents.

I  have a great deal of sympathy for troubled kids being exploited by unscrupulous media.  I have no  tolerance  for  people  enabling  such  exploitation.  You  should   be  ashamed.

And what is your opinion of the Miracle of Our Lady of Fatima?

Religious  hysteria  orchestrated  by  credulous  clerics.   If you actually investigate  the  alleged  events you’ll  find  that  only  one  of  the  children  originally  claimed  to  have  actually seen  the  Virgin.    As  far as the so-called Miracle  of  the  Sun   little  attention  is   given  to  the  thousands  of   people  in   attendance  who  claimed  to  have   seen   nothing.    People  have  visions  all  the  time.  ** you do not have permission to see this link **  a  really   good   book  about  it  written  by  an  actual  scientist.  Enjoy!

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March 2, 2021 - 7:38 pm

Stephen
That’s why we rely on evidence to support claims,  not anecdotes.

Steefen
These talents are beyond anecdotes. The science has advanced to application. You error is so far behind where the science is.
Your grasp on reality has failed you.

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March 2, 2021 - 7:54 pm

Caroline Myss

Norm is Dr. Norman Shealy, a neurosurgeon, trained at Duke, Harvard and Massachusetts General. He is also the co-founder of the American Holistic Medical Association, and he and Myss started working together in 1984.

“I would call her and say, `I’ve got a patient here, tell me what’s going on.’ The less she knows about the person, the better she is. All she needs is their name and age. If she knows too much, she gets emotionally hooked.”

In 1986, Shealy kept track of Myss’ diagnoses over several months and found her more than 90 percent accurate. In one case, she said the patient suffered from severe spinal pain and weighed 249 pounds. He actually weighed 250 pounds.

“Some people are a genius at music, some at art. Caroline is at medical intuition,” Shealy says.

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March 2, 2021 - 8:10 pm

And Steven, you should be knowledgeable of the major names, like Caroline Myss, in medical intuition and William Bengston who CRUSHED double-blind clinical trials–passed everyone of them with flying colors, curing cancer in rats, under lab conditions. His book is titled “The Energy Cure.”)

Myss was the author of Anatomy of the Spirit, 2,000 ratings averaging 4.5 stars.

Anatomy of the Spirit is the boldest presentation of energy medicine to date, written by one of its premier practitioners, internationally acclaimed medical intuitive Caroline Myss, who is amongst the “hottest new voices in the alternative health/spirituality scene” (Publishers Weekly).

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March 2, 2021 - 8:17 pm

Another in the Who’s Who of Medical Intuitives:

Dr. Barbara Brennan – Best Selling Author of The Hands of Light and founder of The Barbara Brennan School of Healing. Dr Brennan

with her scientific background as a NASA physicist

gives us an intelligent perspective on the ** you do not have permission to see this link ** and how they can be viewed metaphysically.

 

Her book is Light Emerging:

Barbara Ann Brennan continues her ground-breaking exploration of the human energy field, or aura—the source of our experience of health or illness. Drawing on many new developments in her teaching and practice, she shows how we can be empowered as both patients and healers to understand and work with our most fundamental healing power: the light that emerges from the very center of our humanity.

In a unique approach that encourages a cooperative effort among healer, patient, and other health-care providers, Light Emerging explains what the healer perceives visually, audibly, and kinesthetically and how each of us can participate in every stage of the healing process.

Presenting a fascinating range of research, from a paradigm of healing based on the science of holography to insights into the “hara level” and the “core star,” Light Emerging is at the leading edge of healing practice in our time.

 

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Go on Stephen, share reputable criticisms of the three professionals I have shown above. That is your obligation since you want to disparage. Back up your disparaging remarks. I have backed up my remarks.

 

And what, none of the professionals in this field are like other professionals in their field, exhibiting an aptitude for their field in childhood?

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March 6, 2021 - 11:05 pm

No Steefen  I’m critiquing your claims not  making claims  of my own.  The  responsibility is on you to substantiate your claims not on me to disprove them.  Why don’t you start by citing that double-blind clinical trial William Bengston CRUSHED? 

When  I   investigate   online  the   folks  you  referenced  what  do  I   see?   People  who  invariably  have  a certain  expertise  in  a   limited  area  trading  off  that   to  make  wide-sweeping  claims  over  a  wide range  of other areas of  inquiry.   And you overstate  credentials.  (I will assume that is out of enthusiasm  rather  than duplicity.)  Dr. Barbara Brennan was briefly an associate researcher at the Goddard Space Center,  hardly  a NASA physicist.    And  a  disturbing number  of her degrees came from unaccredited institutions.  Of course you would expect all these folks to support each other’s conclusions,  wouldn’t  you?

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March 7, 2021 - 1:22 am

Dr. Valerie V. Hunt was a Professor Emeritus of the Department of Physiological Sciences at UCLA, and resident of Malibu, California.

Dr. Hunt was a pioneering scientist who was the first to measure the human bioenergy field in a laboratory. Her early research established the validity of bioenergy fields by measuring vibrations of the field with high frequency electronic instruments and capturing these on video and audio tapes. Her groundbreaking work was published in Infinite Mind: Science of the Human Vibrations of Consciousness in 1996.

Her visionary approach and high standard of scientific integrity that led her to groundbreaking discoveries in energy fields, won her international acclaim from researchers in the fields of physiology, medicine and bioengineering.

Dr. Hunt was consulted in space biology for NASA and was also a field reader for US Department of Health, Education and Welfare research grants.

She taught courses at 20 medical colleges and universities both in the United States and abroad. In addition, she traveled the world, and studied ritualistic healings and mysticism in the Orient, South America, Africa and the Pacific Islands.

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March 7, 2021 - 1:58 am

Stephen
Dr. Barbara Brennan was briefly an associate researcher at the Goddard Space Center, hardly a NASA physicist.

Steefen
First, a person who first obtained a bachelor of science degree in physics followed by a Master’s Degree in Physics, then hired by NASA is not a physicist?
Second, did this person with a Master’s Degree in Atmospheric Physics work at NASA?

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Barbara is a world-renowned spiritual leader, healer and educator. A pioneer and innovator in the field of energy consciousness, the former NASA physicist dedicated her life to exploring the Human Energy Field and realms of human consciousness. She holds a Doctorate of Philosophy, a Doctorate of Theology, a Master’s Degree in Atmospheric Physics, B.S. in Physics, and worked as a research scientist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center. She is also a graduate of the Institute of Core Energetics and a Senior Pathwork® Helper.

Barbara Brennan’s best-selling books are considered classics in the field of complementary medicine.

Her first book, ** you do not have permission to see this link **, was distinguished as Bantam’s New Age bestseller in 1989 and remains popular today. This landmark work on spiritual healing is published in 26 languages and has over a million copies in print.

Her second book, ** you do not have permission to see this link **, is also a bestseller and is published worldwide. In a unique approach that encourages a cooperative effort among healer, patient, and other healthcare providers, Light Emerging explains what the healer perceives visually, audibly, and kinesthetically, and how each of us can participate in every stage of the healing process.

Her third newly released book, ** you do not have permission to see this link **, completes the trilogy and further explores the nature of the creative process from the Human Energy-Consciousness perspective, discovering how each of us creates blocks in our energy fields that ultimately cause dysfunction in our lives and the process involved in the clearing of blocks and releasing our creative potential.

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Peri Zarella, mentor on the A&E Show Psychic Kids has a Master’s Degree in Clinical Psychology.

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Stephen, your belligerent errors can be entertained by someone else.

Peri Zarella for four years has been a Managing Director, Spirituality Mind Body Institute Master’s Degree Program, Teachers College, Columbia University.

You cannot knock Peri off her pedestal.  You cannot take down Columbia University’s Spirituality Mind Body Institute.

You cannot knock down the established Iclif Institute that invited Dr. Bengston to share his excellent experiences in labs.

You cannot knock down Dr. Brennan’s earned credibility, Dr. Valerie Hunt, or Caroline Myss or the doctor who would be her reference: C. Norman Shealy.

After completing her Master’s degree, Caroline co-founded Stillpoint Publishing and headed the editorial department, producing an average of ten books a year in the field of human consciousness and holistic health. Simultaneously Caroline refined her skills as a medical intuitive, with the assistance of C. Norman Shealy, M.D., Ph.D., a Harvard-trained neurosurgeon.

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Your erroneous comments do nothing against Columbia University, A&E Network, the institutes these psychics have established, the people they have successfully taught, etc. Your erroneous comments earn no points of persuasion. Sorry you wrote your comments removing all doubt that your comments are uninformed and 100% wrong.

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March 7, 2021 - 2:04 am

Brennan received a Bachelor of Science degree in Physics in 1962 from the University of Wisconsin–Madison, and two years later received her Masters in Atmospheric Physics from the same institution.

“a disturbing number of her degrees came from unaccredited institutions.” – Stephen

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Stephen, give us the history of the University of Wisconsin-Madison being unaccredited. We would like to know if her bachelor degree in Physics or her masters degree in Physics were unaccredited before she was hired by NASA.

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March 12, 2021 - 10:43 am

Stephen, your belligerent errors can be entertained by someone else.

I simply asked you to provide evidence for your claims.  Yet you double down on the claims and the appeal to credentials.  Do you understand the difference between evidence and claims?  Can you cite actual studies?  Not videos.  If you go to Wikipedia and do a search for ** you do not have permission to see this link ** you can find citations and links to at least a dozen studies showing that this kind of thing doesn’t work.   At least read the studies.  They not only present their conclusions they detail their testing methodologies.  Critique those methodologies not my bad attitude.  

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