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Transformers and arguments from incredulity
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Judith

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September 20, 2024 - 8:53 am

Too old to ride a horse! 🙂

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Jill_L

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September 20, 2024 - 9:09 am

lol 🙂 For an extra penny one can ride in the lux carriage! Of course , then your options are limited off road.

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Jill_L

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September 20, 2024 - 9:40 am

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Stephen
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September 20, 2024 - 2:06 pm

But then some sort of “pro-horse” liberation movement would begin and pretty soon we all would be back on two legs, which doubtless would do wonders for our health.

They can keep AI. All I want is a robot servant who will mow the lawn and keep house. I would call him?her?it? Jeeves.

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Robert
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September 20, 2024 - 2:21 pm
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Jill_L

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September 20, 2024 - 2:45 pm

🙂

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Judith

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September 20, 2024 - 3:23 pm

Love this blog!

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Stephen
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September 20, 2024 - 4:22 pm

All this reminds me of a wonderful science fiction novel written in the 1940s by Clifford Simak entitled City. In the far future, humans have gone, leaving their robots to tend a race of sentient dogs who while away their endless days telling tales of all that was, when humans roamed the earth.

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Jill_L

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September 21, 2024 - 8:15 am

That’s imaginative! I think I’d like to read that one. Written in the 40s I’ll bet his style of writing reflects that somehow.

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Judith

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September 21, 2024 - 9:56 am

You can read all about it on Wikipedia and then see if you’d like to invest the time in actually reading it. I just did that and
think it will be fascinating.

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Jill_L

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September 21, 2024 - 12:14 pm

Thanks Judith! What I’ve done, is ordered the John Campbell anthology from our intrastate library system MelCat. That way I can look at the pieces one by one, a little at a time.

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Judith

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September 21, 2024 - 12:31 pm

A better way! Thanks.

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Chess Jurist

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September 21, 2024 - 12:43 pm

Robert wrote: There already are robotic lawn mowing machines, and of course a Rumba can vacuum your floors.

I have a housekeeper and a groundskeeper. When the bots can mulch and do the laundry, I might consider a change. But I don’t see that happening soon. And even then, I probably won’t change. I enjoy the human interaction and have a sense of loyalty to those who count on me financially.

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March 8, 2025 - 11:31 am
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Porphyry

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March 8, 2025 - 4:17 pm

Here’s what it gave me:

The order of authors listed in the *Epistula Apostolorum* does indeed have significance, though it’s worth examining the context carefully.

In the *Epistula Apostolorum* (a 2nd century Christian text), John is typically mentioned first among the apostolic authors. This is notable because:

1. In canonical New Testament lists of apostles, Peter is usually named first, reflecting his prominence in the early church

2. John’s placement at the head of the author list likely reflects his growing authority in second-century Christianity, particularly in Asia Minor

3. This ordering suggests the text’s connection to Johannine traditions and communities, which were influential in the regions where the *Epistula Apostolorum* circulated

The *Epistula Apostolorum* claims collective apostolic authorship as a way to establish authority, and placing John first serves to connect it with Johannine theology while also functioning as an anti-Gnostic polemic (as the text itself opposes certain Gnostic teachings that were emerging at that time).

This prominence of John aligns with the increased importance of Johannine literature in the second century, when various Christian groups were competing to establish apostolic succession and authority.

That could be due to it simply being non-deterministic in formulating answers, or maybe it does actually somehow learn from past conversations. If it does learn from past interactions, that is pretty interesting technologically.

By the way, what I earlier wrote about ai chotbots not having access to current information is no longer accurate; some of them now have the ability to incorporate web pages and search results into the conversation so they can report on current information.

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March 9, 2025 - 4:08 am

I just asked and got this:

This is an interesting question about the Epistula Apostolorum, an early Christian text from the 2nd century. The prominence given to John in the Epistula Apostolorum is indeed considered significant by many scholars. In the text, eleven disciples are listed as collective authors, with John mentioned first, followed by Peter, then Thomas. This ordering is notable for several reasons:

1. It breaks from the typical pattern in the New Testament and other early Christian literature where Peter is usually listed first among the apostles.

2. The prominence of John may reflect the text’s geographical origin in Asia Minor, where Johannine traditions were particularly strong.

3. This ordering might also indicate the high regard for Johannine authority in the communities that produced and used this text.

4. Some scholars interpret this as evidence of competition between different apostolic traditions in early Christianity, with the Epistula possibly representing a community that privileged Johannine authority.

The text itself claims to contain revelations from the risen Christ to the apostles, so the naming order may also be intended to establish a particular chain of apostolic authority for these teachings. This would have been especially important in the 2nd century when various Christian groups were competing to establish their teachings as authentic.

This unusual ordering provides valuable insight into the diversity of early Christian communities and their varying perspectives on apostolic authority.

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March 9, 2025 - 4:47 am

The biggest problem is, it seems to me, if you ask it a question about a field in which one is not knowledgeable, how would you what is accurate and what is not?

Yes, this is precisely the problem.

I’ve found that unless one is willing to repeatedly question its responses, you may very well receive inaccurate information. It also tries to find meaning even when there is none. Stick in some nonsense and you may be told it is sophisticated, intriguing, and challenging, instead of outright balderdash. It goes out of its way to ingratiate itself; it is extremely unwilling to offend.

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March 9, 2025 - 9:35 am
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