
@Steefen, you posted
verse 12
Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.”
Ammon: Christmas is Christ Mass
Break*now I will superimpose my ignorance of Greek language
The modern Greek of Christmas is Χριστούγεννα which is a noun. It ends with a α so it’s likely a feminine noun beginning in the nominative case.
Break the word apart γέννα which becomes a verb and the genitive case is never added onto the verbs. The genitive case ου is added onto the nouns, χριστου “of Christ”
Greek
of Christ’ birth becomes-
Birth of Christ- Χριστούγεννα

The NT was written in such a way that it would be familiar to both Jews and Greeks. So yes, there’s familiarity of the pagan and Jewish religions written into the NT. The actual rituals however, of the NT Christians, were not pagan nor Jewish. It was a new way, a new version of those ancient pagan and Jewish rituals.
So yeah, whatever Ammon is talking about would not be unknown to the Ancient Greek pagans. After the crucifixion and resurrection neither the Ancient Greek pagan and Jewish rituals were no longer necessary.
And that in fact is what became written in Roman Law a few centuries later. Greek paganism was outlawed.
They, the Greek pagans, were using the liver of sacrificial animals as a tool of prophecy. That however is probably is a different topic than “the purple”.
Title 11 within the Code of Justinian. The emperor Justinian did not create those laws. Those laws (Title 11) existed before.
There’s all the Roman Laws passed against the ancient pagan rituals and superstitions. (Title 11)
** you do not have permission to see this link **
** you do not have permission to see this link **
p>The Video from Comment 38: Jesus died too early to have died from the crucifixion
But, he was the first of three to die.
Ancient Romans (first century) didn’t care about the drugs.
Viper venom
Anti-pharmacon to balance
Jesus was thirsty
Someone ran, filled a sponge with wine vinegar, put it on a staff, and offered it to Jesus to drink. “Now leave him alone. Let’s see if Elijah comes to take him down,” he said.
You don’t die that way when you’re crucified.
Mark 15:34
And at three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).
Jesus was crucified while under the influence of drugs.
The female savior came before the masculine savior–from the Black Sea to Italy.
Jesus was thirsty and had been drinking a lot of water that why when they poke him in his side, blood and water came out.
= = =
Summary
Jesus and the 11 went out to Gethsemane.
Jesus was distraught.
Jesus was betrayed.
Everyone deserted and fled.
Then when a young man who was following Jesus thought he could also flee, he too was seized but broke away. Those who seized him had grabbed his clothes but the youth broke out of his clothes, but the soldiers let him flee away naked.
Jesus faced the Sanhedrin, then Pilate.
The chief priests accused him of MANY things. Mark 15: 3
Jesus was offered wine mixed with myrrh.
9am Jesus was put up on a crucifix.
Noon, it was dark.
3pm Jesus cries out.
Someone runs and get wine and vinegar, put it on a sponge and presses the sponge against his lips.
Jesus screams and dies.
Steefen:
Yes, scripture did open itself for us to ask:
How long had the youth been with Jesus and the disciples?
Was it only when they went to Gethsemane?
Why didn’t they go to where they were sleeping before Judas came back?
They knew Judas was going to betray Jesus but Jesus and the disciples didn’t split up.
Was there a death and resurrection mystery ritual involving the youth going on after Jesus has the first communion with his disciples?
Was Jesus so stressed out that he took drugs for his anxiety of betrayal and arrest?
Was drugs part of the death and resurrection mystery?
Did drugs make the disciples keeping watch sleepy but Jesus was too amped up that he would have to accept his fate instead of God letting him go free?
For now, I’m taking the easy way out:
The gospels are in Ancient Greek
I do not know the nuances of Ancient Greek but a scholar could know the Greek and the context of healer culture, if like Ammon, pharmacology and mystery cults of healers were studied from primary sources.
Next video lecture will be Jesus’ Blood and Flesh.
Is Semele the Mother of Bacchus?
Chat GPT 4.0:
Yes, Semele is the mother of Bacchus (the Roman name for the Greek god Dionysus) in Greek mythology. The story of Bacchus/Dionysus’s birth is one of the more dramatic tales in the mythological canon:
Divine Parentage:
Semele was a mortal woman, the daughter of Cadmus (the founder of Thebes) and Harmonia. She attracted the attention of Zeus (Jupiter in Roman mythology), who fell in love with her.
Hera’s Jealousy and Deception:
Hera, Zeus’s wife, became jealous of Semele. Disguised as an old woman, Hera tricked Semele into doubting Zeus’s divine nature. She convinced Semele to ask Zeus to reveal himself in his true form.
The Death of Semele:
Bound by his promise to grant Semele’s wish, Zeus appeared to her in his full divine glory, surrounded by thunder and lightning. As mortals cannot withstand the sight of a god’s true form, Semele was incinerated by the flames.
The Unborn Bacchus:
Semele was pregnant with Zeus’s child when she died. Zeus rescued the unborn baby by sewing him into his own thigh to complete the gestation. This unique birth earned Dionysus the epithet “twice-born.”
Dionysus’s (Bacchus’s) Later Life:
After his birth, Dionysus was raised in secret to protect him from Hera’s wrath. As the god of wine, ecstasy, fertility, and theater, Dionysus became one of the most prominent deities in the Greek and Roman pantheons.
Semele’s tragic story underscores the complex relationships between mortals and gods in Greek mythology, as well as the dangers of divine power and jealousy. It also establishes Dionysus’s dual heritage as both mortal and divine, a theme central to his identity as a god who bridges human and godly realms.
Steefen:
Dionysus and Jesus: both mortal and divine
BDEhrman
FreedomBen
evgendob
Robert
1 Guest(s)
