I get the myth concept when categorizing the Bible broadly as:
1) miracles
2) parables
3) prophecies
4) Law of Moses
When you remove one category as being complete fiction the remaining categories do not have purpose as theology. It can however remain as a philosophy of morality. I’m not at the point of completely denying any existence whatsoever of the people and places. Those two are far more likely than the specific events.
Truckers too have logbooks and lots of laws to obey.
Deuteronomy 19:15 a law of establishing truth
John 8:17 (slightly wrong or not specific enough though because of time constraints. Just because two or more people testify in court that it is true does not make it by default, true in the Law of Moses: thou shall not give false testimony. Thats in verses 16 through 18 of Deuteronomy 19. Exodus 20:16.)
A myth is a drastic change of perspective within the story created by leaving out or imposing important details.
I think sometimes there’s a big important detail missing about the arrests of John the Baptist and Jesus. That is, John the Baptist recanted his prophecies and teachings about baptism with water during his trial. That’s why he was first imprisoned. He repented was spared the death penalty. He then heard out of sympathy from his disciples that Jesus had fulfilled all those prophecies while he was in prison. Jesus was speaking very generously of himself that the dead had been raised, and so forth. I think they were going to release John from prison if Jesus recanted too, and that’s why they (John’s disciples) went to see Jesus. They pretty much lied to him to raise his spirit up. He became his old self again still in prison, believed he was actually Elijah finally, but was then executed on charges of blasphemy and idolatry because of that.
I can’t quote with chapters and verse numbers all the scripture passages off the my head, and don’t have time to look it all up right now because I’m at work. But I will later.
The prophecies quoted by Jesus in the gospels and in Revelations by John of Patmos, that mimics the language of the book of Daniel were added into the scriptures after 70AD. That sorta makes it a myth.
My suspicion is that Jesus and John the Baptist were two prophets abd actually cousins, working together basically peer pressuring each other to the extreme to recreate the return of Elijah and King David prophecies of Isaiah, Ezekiel, Malachi ect. They weren’t speaking the prophecies of Daniel. That was already fulfilled during the Maccabean Revolt.
It was not a coincidence that the early church of Jerusalem escaped to Petra before 70AD. They were all basically excommunicated from Jerusalem by the Roman Empire after James the Just was executed by the Sanhedrin.
The Daniel prophecies were later added into the texts to make sense of the destruction of the Temple. Whatever original texts existed from the first century were destroyed. Gone forever. King David and YHWH did not return again as the prince of Jerusalem and King of all nations. There wasn’t a resurrection of the dead event considered great enough to fulfill the original prophecy of Jesus and John the Baptist.
The duo didn’t invent any new prophecies, they simply spoke the old prophecies again but preached new ways of forgiveness for sin by baptism. That’s what really got them arrested and eventually executed. The Sadducees and Pharisees didn’t want to hear about it anymore, and there’s no way nor reason they were going to amend the law of Moses to remove the requirements of animal and grain sacrifices at the Temple for any reason whatsoever.
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