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Jesus didn't like the Father giving snakes to children during the Exodus but Jesus is silent on Henotheism?
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Steefen
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August 12, 2024 - 12:04 am

He told the king, “This is what the LORD says: Is it because there is no God in Israel for you to consult that you have sent messengers to consult Baal-Zebub, the god of Ekron? Because you have done this, you will never leave the bed you are lying on. You will certainly die!”

2 Kings 1:16

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August 12, 2024 - 1:38 pm

So,

Ancient Egypt is older than Judaism.
Akkad, Sumer is older than Ancient Egypt.

The starting point for God is Ancient Egypt or Sumer, not Yahweh.
Yahweh was one Powerful Being among other Powerful Beings.

That is what the verse above says–among others.
That’s what the history of Summer says.

Powerful Beings or God?
I could go Powerful Being because God should not sacrifice a son and let his Temple be destroyed.

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August 12, 2024 - 2:15 pm

The Bible starts in Mesopotamia but does not go back there.
Then, it’s all about the God of the Hebrews.
God does not go back to Mesopotamia.
No, religion does not begin and stay in Judah.

So, Eridu Genesis and Atra-Hasis are books that need to be included in our Bible. The Epic of Gilgamesh as well.

Eridu is 5,400 BCE.
Sumerian King list – 2012-2004 BCE
Eridu Genesis is 1600 BCE.
Noah was born 2948 BCE
The king who braved the flood was Zusudra who reigned c. 2900.

Ziusudra OR Uta-napishtim

Uta-napishtim (“he has found life” Akkadian: 𒌓𒍣), was a legendary king of the ancient city of Shuruppak in southern Iraq, who, according to several surviving narratives, survived the Flood by making a boat.

He is called by different names in different traditions: Ziusudra (“Life of long days”, rendered Xisuthros, Ξίσουθρος in Berossus) in the earliest, Sumerian versions, later Shuruppak (after his city), Atra-hasis (“exceeding wise”) in the earliest Akkadian sources, and Uta-napishtim (“he has found life”) in later Akkadian sources such as the Epic of Gilgamesh.[1] His father was the king Ubar-Tutu (“Friend of the god Tutu”).

Uta-napishtim is the eighth of the antediluvian kings in Mesopotamian legend, just as Noah is the eighth from Enoch in Genesis.[1] He would have lived around 2900 BC, corresponding to the flood deposit at Shuruppak between the Jemdet Nasr and Early Dynastic levels.[1]

In Mesopotamian narratives he is the Flood Hero, tasked by the god Enki (Akkadian Ea) to create a giant ship to be called Preserver of Life in preparation for a giant flood that will wipe out all life. The character appears in Tablet XI of the Standard Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh, at the culmination of Gilgamesh’s search for immortality.[2] The story of Uta-napishtim has drawn scholarly comparisons due to the similarities between it and the storylines about Noah in the Bible.[2]

In the epic, overcome with the death of his friend Enkidu, the hero Gilgamesh[6] sets out on a series of journeys to search for his ancestor Utnapishtim (Xisouthros) who lives at the mouth of the rivers and has been given eternal life.

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Powerful Beings AND God Concept of the first century

The Annunaki did not create the Universe, so they cannot be God as we conceptualize God.

The Creator of the Universe was the WORD (God concept of the first century).

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August 12, 2024 - 9:06 pm

The Bible starts in Mesopotamia but does not go back there.
Then, it’s all about the God of the Hebrews.
God does not go back to Mesopotamia.
No, religion does not begin and stay in Judah.

So, Eridu Genesis and Atra-Hasis are books that need to be included in our Bible. The Epic of Gilgamesh as well.

Eridu is 5,400 BCE.
Sumerian King list – 2012-2004 BCE
Eridu Genesis is 1600 BCE.
Noah was born 2948 BCE
The king who braved the flood was Zusudra who reigned c. 2900.

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300,000 years ago to present: archaic Homo sapiens from 300,000 years ago.
modern Homo sapiens from about 160,000 years ago.

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So for Yahweh (God) to show up 2900 years ago when Homo sapiens is 160,000 years old and archaic Homo sapiens is 300,000 years old is not good enough.
For Jesus to come to save the lost sheep of Israel and later to point people to his concept of God is not good enough.

God has little experience with us: 3,000 / 300,000 = One Percent

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August 12, 2024 - 11:10 pm

You know us for 1% of our lives and you want to kills us.
I’m not feeling loving God HERE.
Out with the flood stories.
Jesus should have made a snide remark about that, too.

3,000/160.000 = 1.88% You make an existential decision on 1.88% of our life?

Well, at least with the Mesopotamia flood the goods who wanted to drawn everyone had REMORSE.

Yahweh?
Of course not.

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