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davidmantik

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April 11, 2026 - 12:06 am

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Based on the above website, Moses was 80 years old when he confronted Pharaoh. 
 
If the exodus is dated to 1290 BCE, as is often done, then Moses was born about 1370 BCE.
 
According to AI, Akhenaten was born about the same time:
 
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Intriguingly, Akhenaten’s elder brother was given a name similar to Moses—Tuthmose, but he died young, so Akhenaten became crown prince. 
 
The Old Testament describes Moses (an Egyptian name!) as raised in the royal court, so was he exposed to monotheism while Akhenaten (the world’s first monotheist) ruled Egypt for about 17 years during 1353 – 1336 BCE?
 
Moses would then have been about 20-30 years old. 
 
DAVID MANTIK
 
PS. Moses married Zipporah, a Midianite.
 
 BUT here is Numbers 25:16-18:
 
16 The Lord said to Moses, 17 “Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them. 18 They treated you as enemies when they deceived you in the Peor incident involving their sister Kozbi, the daughter of a Midianite leader, the woman who was killed when the plague came as a result of that incident.”
 
So, here is the question: Why didn’t Moses obey Yahweh and kill his wife?
 
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April 11, 2026 - 11:27 am
When Rahab and Ruth became Israelites, were they anything other than Israelites?
 
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Joshua 2:3
So the king of Jericho sent this message to Rahab: “Bring out the men who came to you and entered your house, because they have come to spy out the whole land.”
 
Joshua 6:17
The city and all that is in it are to be devoted to the Lord. Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall be spared, because she hid the spies we sent.
 
Joshua 6:23
So the young men who had done the spying went in and brought out Rahab, her father and mother, her brothers and sisters and all who belonged to her. They brought out her entire family and put them in a place outside the camp of Israel.
 
Matthew 1:5
Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,
Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,
Obed the father of Jesse,
 
Hebrews 11:31
By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.
 
James 2:25
In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction?
 
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Ruth 1:4
They married Moabite women, one named Orpah and the other Ruth. After they had lived there about ten years,
 
Ruth 1:16
But Ruth replied,
“Don’t urge me to leave you
or to turn back from you.
Where you go I will go,
and where you stay I will stay.
Your people will be my people
and your God my God.
 
Ruth 4:13
So Boaz took Ruth and she became his wife. When he made love to her, the Lord enabled her to conceive, and she gave birth to a son.
 
Matthew 1:5
Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,
Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,
Obed the father of Jesse,
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April 13, 2026 - 12:32 pm

Welcome David.

Here is an interesting article about an “alternate” account of Moses that seems to be embedded in the biblical narrative.  

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The other tradition is much humbler in scale. It begins with a smaller group of Jacob’s descendants in Egypt. Amram, the father of Aaron, Moses and Miriam, is the grandson of the patriarch Levi, and his wife Jochebed is the daughter of Levi. (See Exodus 2:1, Exodus 6:16–20, and Numbers 26:57–59. Due to the blatant contradiction with the 400-year Egyptian sojourn, many English translations obscure or alter these passages — the NIV in particular.)

Pharaoh fears a future increase in their number, so he commands the two midwives who attend to them (Shiphrah and Puah, Exodus 1:15) to kill the Hebrews’ male babies. The midwives disobey his order, however, and Moses is born.

In this tradition, Moses leads the descendants of Jacob (just two generations’ worth) out of Egypt. He is capable of addressing the entire group at once and managing their affairs as a single individual. All the protagonists of the story are related to one another.

Moses and Aaron do not die in the wilderness, but settle the children of Israel in the Promised Land (1 Sam 12.8). At the end of the book of Judges, Moses’ grandson Jonathan becomes the priest to the Danites (Jg 18:30), and Aaron’s grandson Pinehas becomes a priest of Bethel (Jg 20:28). When all the events now portrayed in Exodus through Judges from the “large-scale tradition” are taken into account, there is no way this period of time could be just a generation or two removed from the events of the Exodus.

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Interesting note about 1 Sam 12:8 referenced in the article:

In the Masoretic Text, the verb “settled” (or “made them dwell”) is plural, making Moses and Aaron the subjects who brought the people into the land! In the LXX, the verb is singular, making God the one who personally settled them in the land. 

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The Academia.edu link provided in the body of the article is dead so here is a PDF of Jan-Wim Wesselius’ paper.  The section on Moses begins on page 11 but the entire paper is definitely worth reading. 

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