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Campbellian Concepts: Jesus is a Composite Character of Historical Fiction and DR. JAMES TABOR, Failed Apocalyptic Messiah 200 Years BEFORE Jesus
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February 3, 2024 - 1:55 pm

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February 4, 2024 - 1:35 pm

During the second temple period, there are many messiah candidates.

Jesus quotes Daniel 12: 1. It’s a floating prophecy.

Now, he’s speaking the subject matter, I embrace when he says, while Jesus was concerned with the Romans soldiers who surrounded Jerusalem in AD 69 and AD 70, an earlier version was concerned with the Roman soldiers of Pompey the Great. The Jubilees – they thought they were in the first week of the final Jubilee.

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Dead Sea Scrolls – The Damascus Document – They lost their Teacher of Righteousness, killed by a Wicked Priest
40 years (this generation) We’re going to live to see the end

Jesus Movement – They lost their Teacher of Righteousness, Jesus was killed by a wicked Priest
40 years (this generation) We’re going to live to see the end

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You have detailed, apocalyptic, eschatology coming from Hebrew scripture.

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The British re-took the holy land from the Ottoman Empire.
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Pick up at 24:10 / 1: 52: 37

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February 7, 2024 - 11:45 pm

Dr. James Tabor (24:31 in the video)
The Thanksgiving Hymns 10-17 were actually written by the Teacher.
He applies Isaiah 53 to himself.

(Read that repeatedly until it sinks in–shouldn’t take long.

The New Testament portrays a consistent and singular interpretation of Isaiah 53 by identifying the suffering servant as Jesus of Nazareth. His experience of crucifixion and resurrection are portrayed as the fulfillment of the text.)

Pick up at 42:00 / 1: 52: 37

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February 9, 2024 - 10:20 pm

Tabor finds this book important:

The First Messiah: Investigating the Savior before Jesus by Michael O. Wise

In The First Messiah renowned Dead Sea Scrolls scholar Michael O. Wise brings to light the life of Judah, a forgotten prophet who predated Jesus as a messianic figure by a century and has had a profound impact on the course of Christianity and Western civilization.

Although Judah, known in the Dead Sea Scrolls as the Teacher of Righteousness, preached a message distinctly different from that of Jesus, the parallels between their lives are striking. Sharing with his successor a strong foundation in earlier written revelation, Judah came to believe–through meditation on Holly Writ–that he brought a divine message from God; like Christ, Judah’s claims to messianic status led to his arrest and condemnation. Judah’s warnings of Jewish apostasy and his apocalyptic prophecies, combined with powerful personal charisma, also built a movement that survived his death and even grew into an institution comprising bishops, priests, and laity.

Unlike Jesus, Judah left behind a personal testament, in his own words, of his relationship with God. By analyzing the Thanksgiving Hymns discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls, Wise uncovers the basis of a groundbreaking understanding of the prophetic mind. In so doing, Wise deepens our understanding of Christ, his impact on the Jewish community of his time, and even his interpretation of his own messianic role.

The parallels between Judah and Jesus blaze forth in sharp relief:

Both declared themselves prophets.

Both were hailed by followers as He Who Is to Come and worked attendant wonders.

Both founded vital and long-lasting movements before leaving this world.

In all these things, Judah was first, anticipating the far more famous prophet from Galilee. How can these similarities be explained?

A century before Christ, a man came to Jerusalem who became known as the Teacher of Righteousness. In The First Messiah, distinguished Dead Sea Scrolls scholar Michael O. Wise provides a detailed examination of Judah, a figure whose life and prophecies helped lay the foundation for the acceptance of Jesus as the savior. Drawing on ancient texts as well as contemporary anthropological thought, Wise reveals compelling parallels between early prophets such as Judah and Jesus, and messianic figures who have emerged through the ages to the current day in cultures around the world.

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February 9, 2024 - 10:25 pm

A different book on this topic

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February 9, 2024 - 10:43 pm

Tread carefully with The First Messiah by Michael Wise.

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February 10, 2024 - 3:12 pm

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February 10, 2024 - 5:50 pm

Tread carefully with The First Messiah by Michael Wise.

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2.0 out of 5 stars Not Michael Wise’s Judah, nor Israel Knohl’s Menahem, but Jesus of Nazareth is the First and Only Messiah

Reviewed in the United Kingdom on May 1, 2008
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Unfortunately for Wise and Knohl, from the same DSS data, for his `First Messiah’ Wise chooses a `Judah’, the TOR, who died in 72 BC, while Knohl chooses an `invented’ Menahem, a different Qumranite leader, killed in 4 BC by the Romans during a Jewish revolt following Herod’s death. Too many claimants for the same position.

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February 10, 2024 - 5:50 pm

More about Michael O. Wise

Published 2005

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