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craigswezey

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March 5, 2023 - 4:55 pm

Hello Dr. Ehrman
You’re a busy man so I’ll get right to the point. Your claim that “Jesus certainly existed” appears to be at odds with the standards of ancient history. It’s my understanding that the historical method only evaluates likelihood not certainty. I’m I missing something?
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Craig

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Robert
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March 5, 2023 - 5:34 pm
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Porphyry

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March 7, 2023 - 3:40 pm

I just want to pipe in to note that the notion of certitude is a bit fuzzy. If something is sufficiently probable, depending on the context, we just call it “certain”.

I mean, there is my certitude that 2+2=4; it is really hard for me to imagine any circumstances in which I could be wrong about that, although I suppose if I am insane I might imagine basic mathematical truths that aren’t actually true at all.

Then there is, say, the certitute the interior angles of a triangle sum to two right angles; which people took as certain until we discovered non-euclidean geometry, which turned out to give us exceptions we hadn’t previously considered.

Then there is my certitude that my wife is upstairs right now, or my certitude that a man named Augustus ruled Rome. could I be wrong? I suppose it is theoretically possible (maybe my wife was abducted by aliens in the last 10 minutes, maybe all the testimonies to the existence of the Emperor Augustus were medieval forgeries), but (all things considered) such mistakes seems such remote possibilities that I can just ignore them and take those facts as established beyond any reasonable doubt.

I guess the point is that a radical skeptic can, reasonably, raise a doubt about anything regardless of how well-established it is. Certainty must admit of degrees or there is no certainty.

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craigswezey

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March 12, 2023 - 1:58 pm

I did as you asked and found his blog but my comment does not seem to get past the moderators. ???

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Robert
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March 12, 2023 - 2:05 pm
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craigswezey

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March 12, 2023 - 3:46 pm

Do I get some type of notification if he responds?

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Robert
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March 12, 2023 - 3:48 pm
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craigswezey

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March 12, 2023 - 4:18 pm

Good to know. Btw, I managed to find the blog post with my question and found his reply. Thank you. : )

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dflowers

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March 25, 2023 - 3:46 pm

Has anyone read the book “The Case For Jesus” by Brant Pitre? In it makes the case for Jesus’ divinity and cites Bart many times in the book implying that Bart is wrong with respects to the synoptic gospels not claiming Jesus’ divinity. He cites the transfiguration, walking on water, and calming the winds as examples. Has anyone read this book or have any comments on the divinity of Jesus not only being in the Gospel of John, but the synoptics as well?

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Robert
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March 25, 2023 - 3:59 pm
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