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Historical Jesus in Josephus
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Steefen
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February 13, 2026 - 1:55 pm

In case you haven’t watched the short video or did not take notes, below is a description for discussion and reference for discussion in this thread.

Did Jesus really exist — and if so, why does the Gospel story look the way it does?

In this interview, author Steve Campbell discusses his book Historical Accuracy (Clarion Reviews: 4/5 stars) and presents new research arguing that Jesus of Galilee was a real historical figure whose biography was later rewritten after Rome’s victory in the Jewish Revolt.

Drawing on ancient sources, including Flavius Josephus, this video explores the distinction between:

  • The historical Jesus of Galilee
  • The Gospel Jesus shaped by later political realities

The discussion examines how the Gospels place Jesus in the time of Pontius Pilate, while evidence suggests the historical Jesus was active in 67 CE, during the Jewish Revolt — when Roman authority had shifted to direct military control under Vespasian and later Titus.

Special attention is given to Herod Agrippa II, ruler of Galilee during the revolt, and the political pressures he faced after Rome’s victory in the Battle of Galilee. The video explores why a Galilean rebel leader would have been a liability — and how rewriting Jesus as a figure Rome could “find no fault in” may have served elite survival after the war.

The interview also discusses:

  • The role of the Testimonium Flavianum in Josephus’ Antiquities of the Jews
  • Why pro-Roman figures like Agrippa II and Josephus were allowed to live in Rome after the revolt

Referencing the work of Lena Einhorn (The Jesus Mystery and A Shift in Time), this video argues that the Gospel narrative reflects a post-war reinterpretation of Jesus, shaped by political necessity rather than Roman
authorship. This is not an argument that Rome wrote the Gospels — but that history rewrote Jesus after Rome won.

 

Topics Covered

Historical Jesus vs. Gospel Jesus

Battle of Galilee (67 CE)

Was Jesus rewritten after Rome’s victory?

Herod Agrippa II and Josephus permitted to live in Rome after the Jewish Revolt

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Robert
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February 13, 2026 - 2:06 pm
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Steefen
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February 13, 2026 - 2:13 pm

My coach who is preparing me.

I am very grateful for reaching higher (beyond professional book reviews). Authors are prepped for interviews. I’m glad to be prepped. I wasn’t prepped with mock interviews for real interviews when my book first came out. 

Now, I can approach my local TEDx organization as a prospective speaker. In addition to handling questions and comments from the organizers, fellow speakers, and the audience, I’m ready to be on podcasts–mostly for the subject of the video.

For my finance and investments career, I have a long duration video I have to do next. That shouldn’t take too much longer.

I couldn’t have done the interview video above when my book first came out. I’ll have to work with my coach and see what else can be pulled from current contemplations / personal essays. So far, a script is in the works for the discussion of why Finkelstein speaks of significant Hebrew writing beginning after King David and King Solomon had died.

That media exercise is a longer interview prep than the Jesus of Galilee, 67 CE.

When I do that media exercise, I hope I can get AI to be the voice of the interviewer.

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Steefen
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February 15, 2026 - 1:12 am

Einhorn’s thesis:

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Steefen
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February 15, 2026 - 2:04 am

Why Bart says Jesus existed:

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Porphyry

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February 17, 2026 - 7:13 pm

>> I wasn’t prepped with mock interviews for real interviews when my book first came out. 

What interviews did you give when your book first came out? I’d be interested to watch them.

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March 2, 2026 - 1:00 am

historyguy2004 said
There’s a meme floating around social media with Bart’s photo, and the quote (supposedly by Bart): “ In the entire first Christian century Jesus is not mentioned by a single Greek or Roman historian, religion scholar, politician, philosopher or poet. His name never occurs in a single inscription, and it is never found in a single piece of private correspondence. Zero! Zip references.” I wonder if Bart actually said or wrote this, because it doesn’t consider Josephus’ the Antiquities of the Jews (Book 20, Chapter 9) where he mentions James being the brother of Jesus. Any insights?
  

I recall the quote.  I recall being scandalized by it. I am not one to meet quotes for the first time on line; I prefer books.  I will revisit my library and see if its contents include the quote.

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Porphyry

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March 3, 2026 - 9:45 am

We found at least one video of Bart using that language in a debate. 

He makes the same point in slightly different words in the first chapter of Did Jesus Exist, while laying out the mythisist position:

On the negative side, mythicists typically stress that there are no reliable references to the existence of Jesus in any non-Christian sources of the first century. Jesus allegedly lived until about the year 30 CE. But no Greek or Roman author (or any other non-Christian author, for that matter) mentions him for over eighty years after that. If Jesus was such an important figure—or even if he wasn’t so important—wouldn’t there be a reference to him in some of our many surviving sources from the first century? We have the writings of historians, politicians, philosophers, religion scholars, poets, and scientists; we have inscriptions placed on buildings and personal letters written by average people. In none of these non-Christian writings of the first century is Jesus ever mentioned, not even once.

It is typically argued by those who hold to Jesus’s historical existence that he is, in fact, mentioned by one author: the Jewish historian Josephus, who wrote a number of surviving books near the end of the first century. Mythicists, however, claim that the two references to Jesus in Josephus’s book Jewish Antiquities (these are the only two mentions of Jesus in all of Josephus’s abundant writings) were not written originally by Josephus but were inserted into his writings by later Christian scribes. If they are right, this would mean that we don’t have a single reference to Jesus in non-Christian texts before the writings of Pliny, a Roman governor of a province in what is now Turkey, in 112 CE and in the writings of the Roman historians Tacitus and Suetonius a few years later. 

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