In recent days, the discussion about “Is Jesus Yahweh?” is continued.
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Ahmedfahmi cites a number of arguments known to biblical scholars from the video below
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White reads Nicaean trinitarianism back into the New Testament. He thinks this was the consistent message of all the sources back to Jesus himself. White completely rejects historical criticism of the Bible. His view is completely ahistorical. Every time the NT refers to Jesus’ divinity White thinks it means Jesus is co-equal with God the Father. If I was Prof Ehrman it would take a helluva lot more than $25K to get me to debate this dogmatic self-righteous prick.
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White reads Nicaean trinitarianism back into the New Testament. He thinks this was the consistent message of all the sources back to Jesus himself. White completely rejects historical criticism of the Bible. His view is completely ahistorical. Every time the NT refers to Jesus’ divinity White thinks it means Jesus is co-equal with God the Father. If I was Prof Ehrman it would take a helluva lot more than $25K to get me to debate this dogmatic self-righteous prick.
Dr. Ehrman was definitely caught off guard the first time around. He’d probably serve himself well if he properly prepared and debated White again. That White isn’t a trainer scholar should make the debate all that much easier for Dr Ehrman.
The funny part is when White accuses Ehrman of being both an apostate and one who never really was a Christian. Just how can you be an apostate if you never really believed in the first place? That reminds me of those right wingers who accused Obama of being both a Muslim and an atheist. Funny how that works.
White is hard to take for any extended length of time but he is interesting if only because he’s hardcore, a sincere fanatic who lives in a hermetically sealed thought world. He never has a doubt about anything and has spent his entire life tying off every theological loose end. White has the answer to every question. It’s quite an achievement.
I do not know how to understand it, maybe it is some ritual of raising the temperature of the dispute to motivate the sponsors of the planned debate more?
James White clung to one and only interpretation consistent with his worldview, but this is what apologists have.
But let’s see what Bart writes.
“No one mixed his identity with the father. But virtually every NT author considers Jesus God in * some * sense, and books like John do speak of Christ as God ”
No one?
How does he know that?
Honestly, both of them seem ahistorical in their answers to the question Is Jesus a Yahweh? They represent specific interpretations (each different) and contradict all other posssible interpretations. As if something limited the original theological field before AD 140 in Rome? Until Marcion’s condemnation, Rome was able to accept any interpretation: who was Jesus, what is Jesus’ relationship with YHWH, who is God Almighty?
If James White or Margaret Barker found in Paul’s letters confirmation that Jesus is YHWH, Marcion found in them a contradiction of this thesis.
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