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Josephus and Recent Scholarship
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Pattycake1974
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March 16, 2019 - 10:50 am

This is a comment I just put on the blog.  Did Louis Feldman reverse his position about Josephus?  

 

Two articles about Josephus written by linguists Paul Hopper (Distinguished Professor Emeritus of the Humanities at Carnegie Mellon University) and Ken Olson (Senior Linguist Consultant at The University of Chicago):
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Here’s another article by G.J. Goldberg, but I can’t find anything about who he is or his background—
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And last but not least, this book or article (I can’t tell which) by Louis Feldman—
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Robert
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March 16, 2019 - 1:30 pm
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March 16, 2019 - 2:41 pm
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Pattycake1974
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March 16, 2019 - 4:06 pm

I’m reading Feldman now, and he refers to Goldberg as well. Not finished with the section on Josephus just yet. 

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Pattycake1974
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March 17, 2019 - 10:05 am

Feldman seems to leave the door slightly open for the TF being authentic.  It’s strange that the Slavonic version has the exact paragraph as the TF which reads more like Josephan than what we have in other manuscripts. 

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March 18, 2019 - 11:29 am

Even the reconstruction attempts of this passage that leave out the obvious interpolations (“He was the Christ”, etc)  still seem a bit overdone to me for Josephus.  My hypothesis is that there might originally have been a minimalist reference to Jesus.  Someone who perhaps knew Josephus’ works and his biography sweetened the reference a bit to make it favorable without making it sound like Josephus was a believer.  Then later some clueless goober came along and made it sound like it was composed by a believer.

In other words, not a single interpolation but multiple layers, so much so that if an original authentic reference existed it is occluded to us. 

Personally I’ve always found the reference in 20:9 about the death of James to be more interesting because it is so offhand and provides us a historical datum.  I suspect the TF was also similarly offhand.

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March 18, 2019 - 11:41 am
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Pattycake1974
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March 19, 2019 - 6:21 am

Do Whealey or Mason say anything about Feldman’s view that you know of?

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Robert
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March 19, 2019 - 10:34 am
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Pattycake1974
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March 19, 2019 - 5:42 pm

I think Feldman meant the whole TF was interpolated, but he still believed something was mentioned about Jesus because of the James passage. 

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March 20, 2019 - 12:51 pm

Testamonium Flavianum Favorabilis Kiss(just some light relief)

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