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Recent Post by Bart D.E. - Did the Triumphal Entry Really Happen? 6/17/23 and Rev. Marcum
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June 18, 2023 - 10:05 am

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June 18, 2023 - 10:14 am

Answer to the question, “Did the Triumphal Entry Really Happen?

Bart D.E.
The Gospels’ description of the event is highly implausible.

Steve Campbell, author of Historical Accuracy
No Roman legion had been defeated as will have been done in the future at the start of the Jewish Civil War.

Second, all was relatively quiet in Jerusalem under the reign of Tiberius.

Third, where is the clash between Rome and those participating in a triumphal entry?

So, we have more verses that can be eliminated from the New Testament as we get to the historical Jesus and historical accuracy.

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June 18, 2023 - 10:28 am

Rev. Marcum says the turning over of the tables could have happened on Sunday but Jesus ran out of time and did it Monday.

Steve Campbell, Author of Historical Accuracy
What does that have to do with Rome?
Nothing.
But Jesus is not a military messiah.

The turning over the tables is not a Mosaic plague against oppression by a superpower-empire like Egypt, i.e., Rome.

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June 20, 2023 - 12:33 pm

Gospel accounts of Jesus’s triumphal entry into Jerusalem or that he and his disciples just walked into the city unannounced and unnoticed are both unlikely. What probably happened is somewhere between these two extremes.
There are good reasons to suppose that Jesus was actually well-known, not only in Galilee but also to Temple authorities in Jerusalem. His unarmed followers were not a threat to the Romans but he probably had supporters in Jerusalem who agreed that the corrupt Sanhedrin should be reformed. Thousands of pilgrims were entering the city for the Passover festival so supporters could have welcomed Jesus without others noticing. Reasonable estimates suggest about 70,000 in Jerusalem at this time and Acts suggests about 100 active supporters after the crucifixion so, even 200 people greeting Jesus would still be less than 0.3% of the total population, enough to give the illusion of a large crowd but small enough to disperse quickly if confronted by authorities. Some people might have laid down garments and palms but Jesus riding a colt or donkey was likely added on the basis that since it was prophesied, he must have done it.
Gospel accounts are then a gross exaggeration rather than entirely fictional.

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June 20, 2023 - 10:42 pm

The triumphal entry into Jerusalem is partly because why?

In the days before Holy Week, did Jesus say anything about pushing Rome out?
Answer No.

In Mark, before the triumphal entry, the blind Bartimaeus was healed. That may have made Jesus more popular
but not a King Solomon figure.

In Matthew, before the triumphal entry, Jesus denounces the Pharisees and scribes–“Woe [this, that, and the other thing.]”

In Luke, before the triumphal entry, Jesus teaches.

Also, in Luke, the Son of Man of Jewish Apocalypticism is supposed to come.

“And then they”
They who? Pharisees and elders? Rome? Emperor Tiberius? Pontius Pilate?
“And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. … Your redemption is at hand.”

What redemption? Redeemed from Rome? Jesus never talked about that. Moses talked about being redeemed from Egypt.

There is no reason for people to think Jesus was going to have a showdown with Roman authorities, Pilate or Tiberius ! ! ! There was no Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem that Jesus was going to redeem the Holy City from Rome !

King Solomon did not have redeem his people from a super power empire, so referring to King Solomon does not fit the narrative of the Triumphal Entry.

Blackwell, the Gospel accounts are not fictional? ? ? We do not have a coherent narrative that makes sense. The crowd thought Jesus’ kingdom was going to replace Rome. Their misunderstanding was based on them making the wrong implication from Jesus’ teachings.

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June 21, 2023 - 12:56 pm

Exactly! These are all grossly exaggerated accounts of a greeting by a small crowd of people which likely did actually happen when Jesus arrived in Jerusalem.

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