Bart Ehrman Blog Readers Forum

A A A
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Min search length: 3 characters / Max search length: 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_TopicIcon
Spinoza's Addition to the Historical Jesus Discussion / John 10:34 - In YOUR Law, not in OUR Law
Avatar
Steefen
7977 Posts
(Offline)
61
August 23, 2026 - 7:12 pm

The narrator mentions James Tabor.
The narrator says he studied this for 6 months.
The narrator was a history teacher.

5,800 views, 224 thumbs up.

Steefen:
I’m glad to be a fly on the wall to overhear this.

The biological father, leaving Joseph in Sepphoris.

P/u at 15:17

dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.W2abv1LFESD0InQd6DL_07IW4Riqw4FqDfGYcxjfiHABpgjjm8vltd011kn5z0-c.VMZFrThtVJ0siz18yOS7xp8Sj11qdKqk3Cjb6u4w9JY&dib_tag=se&keywords=The+Lost+Mary+by+james+tabor%5C&qid=1787527299&sprefix=the+lost+mary+by+james+tabor%2Caps%2C139&sr=8-1

 

p/u at 21:03

Steefen:

Inside the 2% chance Jesus was more than the deconstruction.

Avatar
Steefen
7977 Posts
(Offline)
62
August 24, 2026 - 1:45 pm

Comment 56

6 Jesus diverts attention from himself to God.
He teaches people to pray to the Father.
Only the Father knows certain things.
He subordinates himself clearly to the Father.
St. Paul inverted that by transforming Jesus into the central object of worship.

Avatar
Steefen
7977 Posts
(Offline)
63
August 24, 2026 - 10:17 pm

With Paul, Jesus became a pagan god, a non-Jewish mystery-divinity.

Messages of Jesus:
Love one another
Take care of the needy
Forgive those who have offended you
Do not accumulate earthly riches
It did not need theology and an institution, priests, dogmas, Pauline complexities–Paul created a religion that needs experts to understand.
Paul hijacked a message of love and transformed it into an instrument of control and cruelty–
Paul’s vision of Jesus, Paul’s version of Jesus is an in-version
of Jesus’ vision.
See the difference between the original message of Jesus
and Paul’s institutional distortion.

p/u at 28:23 of 36:49

= = = = = =

Paul and the Gospel of John:
Salvation by faith in Jesus

Jesus:
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Forum Timezone: America/Indiana/Indianapolis
All RSSShow Stats
Administrators:
BDEhrman
FreedomBen
evgendob
Robert
Top Posters:
Steefen: 7977
Stephen: 4776
Porphyry: 1923
godspell: 1827
DavidFord: 1602
BJH1960: 1351
brenmcg: 1184
Colin Milton: 1142
JAS: 948
Jarek: 936
Newest Members:
Francisco Molina
walkertl
dauburn
Quest_for_knowledge
sargon555
hectormichel
benjaminsteverichard
hdemucha
Jacek Chuchla
Npetro
Forum Stats:
Groups: 2
Forums: 13
Topics: 2639
Posts: 47629

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 65
Members: 66133
Moderators: 0
Admins: 4
Most Users Ever Online: 3559
Currently Online:
Guest(s) 131
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)