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crazymouse922

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January 15, 2019 - 3:07 am

 I have a Jew education, after being a christian.  One very important issue  for the Rabbis that told me that a Jew person never would go back to open a tomb. They celebrate a burial act called “Shiba” that makes you as a Jew to stay at home 7 days. This is one and very simple reason about why they do no accept the christian narrative.  They use to go back a year later, no within the next 3 days of the burial, to put the bones in a Osary.

No jewish man or woman would go to open a tomb. Ever .

If this catches the attention of Dr. Ehrman. I would like to know why is not use as argument for the historians.

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January 15, 2019 - 12:44 pm

As I understand it, Dr. Ehrman does not browse the forum. Good point, though. Is this a custom that dates back to Biblical times?

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crazymouse922

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January 17, 2019 - 7:50 pm

Yes, In Genesis within the story of ** you do not have permission to see this link ** 50:1-14 describes the time in which Joseph grieves over the loss of his father.  In the book of Job is when the seven days are mentioned. (Job 2-13)

 

Is a surprise to me that something so obvious in Jew Tradition, in Occident is not big deal. All the debate of the empty tomb  for the Rabbis are worthless because no jew would go back to open one.

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January 18, 2019 - 2:19 am

Pious Jewish ritual mourning commences after burial.  But that is precisely the issue.  Jesus’ burial by Joseph of Arimathea was hasty and not considered ritually correct.  The reason the women went back to the tomb was to prepare Jesus’ body for a proper Jewish burial.  Presumably then ritual Jewish mourning would take place. 

I am not suggesting that the burial and the story of the empty tomb are historical.   Just that the depiction in the story would not in and of itself offend Jewish piety.  (Correct me if I’m wrong but so-called “sitting shiva” would only involve the immediate family of the deceased anyway.) 

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crazymouse922

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January 26, 2019 - 12:59 pm

You are correct Stephen. Jesus only had his mother.  According to the shiba , Jesus would not be buried in another family  tomb. If they  did not have enough money to pay for a big tomb, a simple hole in the desert covered by stones would do it. Still the mourning process, is missing.

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