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Was the Historical Jesus of Galilee (circa 27 CE) Influenced by The Therapeutae, the Essenes, or the Dead Sea Scrolls Community
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February 6, 2023 - 10:46 pm

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February 6, 2023 - 10:48 pm

The Therapeutae were a religious sect which existed in Alexandria and other parts of the ancient Greek world. The primary source concerning the Therapeutae is the De vita contemplativa (“The Contemplative Life”), traditionally ascribed to the Jewish philosopher Philo of Alexandria (c. 20 BCE – 50 CE).[1][2] The author appears to have been personally acquainted with them. The author describes the Therapeutae as “philosophers” (cf. I.2) and mentions a group that lived on a low hill by the Lake Mareotis close to Alexandria in circumstances resembling lavrite life (cf. III.22). They were “the best” of a kind given to “perfect goodness” that “exists in many places in the inhabited world” (cf. III.21). The author was unsure of the origin of the name and derives the name Therapeutae/Therapeutides from Greek θεραπεύω in the sense of “cure” or “worship” (cf. I.2).

Philo’s description of the doctrines and practices of the Therapeutae leaves great ambiguity about what religion they are associated with. Analysis by religious scholar Ullrich R. Kleinhempel indicates that the most likely religion the Therapeutae practiced was Buddhism.

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February 6, 2023 - 11:01 pm

Jesus visited the John the Baptist community.
John the Baptist likely was associated with the Essenes at Qumran?
What did the Essenes of Qumran think of the Therapeutae?

Why didn’t Paul seek out Philo?

How much does the Jesus Movement owe to

The Therapeutae

The Essenes ?

Same question for Pauline Christianity.
Is Romans 13:12 connecting to thoughts of the Therapeutae?

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The Therapeutae were not only Jewish.

Would they have believed in Jewish Apocalypticism?

What did the Essenes think of the Therapeutae?

Return to our divine state and recover our garments of light.

What did the Therapeutae think of Jesus 30 to 33 CE?

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February 6, 2023 - 11:10 pm

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“The Therapeutae were a religious sect which existed in Alexandria

and other parts of the ancient

Greek world.

The primary source concerning the Therapeutae is the De vita contemplativa, traditionally ascribed to the Jewish philosopher Philo of Alexandria. Wikipedia

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One would think Jesus and his disciples could have relied on or considered the Therapeutae a supportive, kind group.

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Forerunners of early Christian monastic orders

Philo’s monachism has been seen as the forerunner of and the model for the Christian ascetic life. It has even been considered as the earliest description of Christian monasticism. This view was first espoused by Eusebius of Caesarea in his Ecclesiastical History.[5]

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October 6, 2023 - 5:24 pm

After reading that Pythagoras visited the Essenes at Mt. Carmel, I checked a map and found that it is roughly eleven miles from Bethlehem. Distance between Nazareth and Mount Carmel is 23 km. The road distance is 39.4 km. I’ve thought some of the teachings of and about Jesus reflected Essene beliefs. So, I’ve wondered if some of those “missing years” were spent studying with the Essenes. I also see (on Wiki): “According to Josephus and Epiphanius, Mount Carmel had been the stronghold of the Essenes that came from Nazareth; this Essene group are sometimes referred to as Nazareans”

Any ideas?

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October 6, 2023 - 5:47 pm

Didn’t Pythagoras die 4 centuries, more or less, before the essenes were founded?

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October 7, 2023 - 10:42 am

Excellent question. We have info that Pythagoras died about 500 BC. I can not find info on when the Essenes developed a stronghold on Mt. Carmel.

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October 7, 2023 - 1:23 pm

I’ve thought that John, the Baptist had gained Essene influence due to his practice of baptism. While we do see ritual washing among the predominate Jews, archaeologists have found baths in Essene areas accommodating washing of the entire body.

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