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Are the New Testament Gospels Presenting Jesus as a Demigod as Homer Presented Demigods?
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Steefen
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September 7, 2021 - 1:49 am

Philosopher Dr. David Skrbina suggested Jesus was a demigod.

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So, Are the New Testament Gospels Presenting Jesus as a Demigod as Homer Presented Demigods?

By the way, did Paul present Jesus as a demigod?

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September 7, 2021 - 10:21 am

Academic on holiday.

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September 7, 2021 - 7:16 pm
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September 7, 2021 - 9:37 pm

Robert
One could make the case that the gospels of Matthew and Luke (perhaps also the preaching of Paul) might resonate with or even have evoked demigod ideas in some hellenistic readers,

but we do not have direct access to the preaching of Paul.

One cannot make this case for the gospel of Mark, which likely the earliest gospel we have.

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We cannot make the case for the gospel of Mark that there is resonance with Hellenistic demigod ideas?

Answer: The Homeric Epics and the Gospel of Mark by Dennis R. MacDonald and subsequent works

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September 7, 2021 - 9:42 pm
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September 7, 2021 - 9:45 pm

Robert said
Look again at the definition you offered of demigod. It resonates with the infancy narratives of Matthew and Luke, but not with Mark. I agree with MacDonald that the gospels, including that of Mark, can be be better understood when considering how Hellenistic writers (and some readers) familiar with Homer would understand it. But that does not change the fact that the gospel of Mark does not present Jesus as conceived by a god and a mortal.

  

Absence of an infancy narrative isn’t a case against Jesus being the Son of God. The Gospel of Mark denies Jesus was the Son of God?

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September 7, 2021 - 9:52 pm
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September 8, 2021 - 6:09 pm

Robert said

Steefen said 

Absence of an infancy narrative isn’t a case against Jesus being the Son of God. The Gospel of Mark denies Jesus was the Son of God?  

No, of course not, but, unlike the gospels of Matthew and Luke, the gospel Mark does not present Jesus as conceived of the union of a god and a human. There’s no indication that the author of the gospel of Mark understood the term ‘Son of God’ in a biological sense. 

  

Okay. But Son of God is not dependent on biology. God the Creator, created angels.

The Koran would say God would simply say, Be, and the “begotten” Son would come into existence.

The Enoch books would say, an angel brings the Son of Man to God and God would say Elevate his existence to the level of angel, and God would have “begotten” an angel: transformed a human into an angel.

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September 8, 2021 - 10:18 pm
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September 9, 2021 - 4:29 pm

Robert said
But those examples do not fit your definition of a demigod.

  

 

I am not going to box God in. God can create a begotten son any way He pleases.

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September 9, 2021 - 10:20 pm
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September 10, 2021 - 1:41 pm

Robert said
Your original question was not about what God could or could not do, but rather whether or not the NT gospels presented Jesus as a demigod as Homer presented demigods. I’ve answered that question for you.

  

There are truths beyond answers to questions. Besides, Jesus in the New Testament gospels is certainly known as a first person Son of Man as well as a third person Son of Man. God commanded the Son of Man to rise in godly power, for example, the power to judge over the lives of souls.

 

Are the New Testament Gospels Presenting Jesus as a Demigod as Homer Presented Demigods?
Yes, the gospels that portray Jesus’ conception as a union of human and god do that; however, the conclusion does not stop there.

That is the difference between a high school student or a college student and students of higher learning, professionals, and subject matter experts.

Yes, the gospel writers are using Hellenistic concepts but not to the exclusion of concepts in Enoch 1 and Enoch 2.

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