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are the NT gospels concerned about social justice?
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Indent

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November 9, 2018 - 1:46 pm

A lot of evangelical Christians seem to denounce social justice, so I’m curious what your take is on the NT gospels and social issues. Are the authors concerned about social issues of the time?

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November 10, 2018 - 11:02 am

Indent said
A lot of evangelical Christians seem to denounce social justice, so I’m curious what your take is on the NT gospels and social issues. Are the authors concerned about social issues of the time?  

My take is that no, the early Christians were not interested in creating a “better” world but looked for the coming of the Kingdom of God where everything would be made right.  However they did seem to think that they should practice the values of the Kingdom in this world in preparation for the world to come.  See Matthew 25.

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November 10, 2018 - 2:51 pm

Indent said
A lot of evangelical Christians seem to denounce social justice, so I’m curious what your take is on the NT gospels and social issues. Are the authors concerned about social issues of the time?  

Demanding social justice from their Roman occupiers often ended with crucifixion for people in 33 a.d.  Hence, the message of the New Testament is that any good in the world will come not from outside the person but from inside. 

As for equality, the idea that the kingdom ahead would be accessible to anyone who believed is found, and in the epistles Paul makes clear that Christianity is open to all.  In Acts, the apostles are told to spread the word in all directions and in different languages, so strict rules on geographic or cultural identity were not present.  Everlasting life was even open to women and slaves, although the slave mentioned in Philemon is not necessarily African.   

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November 11, 2018 - 4:58 pm

Indent said
A lot of evangelical Christians seem to denounce social justice, so I’m curious what your take is on the NT gospels and social issues. Are the authors concerned about social issues of the time?  

Traditionally Judaism with its Law had prescripts for upholding and promoting social justice. The basic principle was that overall justice would come about when individuals and rulers kept the Law. An individual violating the Law would bring about illnesses and misfortunes affecting himself and his closest family. The sins of a ruler would hit the entire society. The Law was fixed and they did not have our modern ideas of engineering justice by modifying the laws and the system itself. They had only one instrument: keeping the Law.

The early Christians became detached from the Law, but still thought the only way of promoting justice was through individual acts of following ethical commands, like forgiveness and caring for the needy. A thorough social justice could however not be created by individuals alone, in a sum, they were expecting the intervention of God, since the world basically was in the grip of satanic powers.

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