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Did "Proto-Doscetism" start by Crucifixion as Illusion ?
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May 8, 2018 - 4:46 pm

Hi

I try to read Ignatius letter againts “Doscetist”, looks like he refute Doscetism on Crucifixion only, not all Christ life 

How is actually Doscetism theology developed through history? at least till 2 or 3rd century CE. 

was it start by believing that Christ suffering on the cross is illusion? then grow to believe that all Christ life is just appearance, as Marcion believe? 

Thanks

Here, I separate Ignatius on 2 parts

Part 1 :  Affirmation of Ignatius own believe on Christ, proto-Orthodox

“I glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who by Him has given you such wisdom. For I have observed that ye are perfected in an immoveable faith, as if ye were nailed to the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, both in the flesh and in the spirit, and are established in love through the blood of Christ, being fully persuaded, in very truth, with respect to our Lord Jesus Christ, that He was the Son of God, ‘the first-born of every creature,’ God the Word, the only-begotten Son, and was of the seed of David according to the flesh, by the Virgin Mary; was baptized by John, that all righteousness might be fulfilled by Him; that He lived a life of holiness without sin, and was truly, under Pontius Pilate and Herod the tetrarch, nailed [to the cross] for us in His flesh. From whom we also derive our being, from His divinely-blessed passion, that He might set up a standard for the ages, through His resurrection, to all His holy and faithful [followers], whether among Jews or Gentiles, in the one body of His Church.

 

Part 2: focus only on suffering part, rejecting any “voices” that who believe Crucifixion / suffering as appearance / illusion, proto-Doscetism

Now, He suffered all these things for our sakes, that we might be saved. And He suffered truly, even as also He truly raised up Himself, not, as certain unbelievers maintain, that He only seemed to suffer, as they themselves only seem to be [Christians]. And as they believe, so shall it happen unto them, when they shall be divested of their bodies, and be mere evil spirits.”

– Ignatius of Antioch (c. 35-107), To the Smyrnaeans, i-ii.

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