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how would the jews talk about their dead in jesus' day?
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rickgill

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July 14, 2023 - 9:03 am

When jews in jesus timed talked about their dead, would they have disrespected their murdered family members by saying “my brother rotted on the cross” or would they have used respectable terms when addressing their dead family members who died unjustly or justly?

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Robert
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July 14, 2023 - 3:07 pm
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rickgill

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July 15, 2023 - 6:42 am

I ask because someone asked Ehrman , “why didnt James say to Paul that Jesus rotted on the cross”

If Jesus was kept on the cross for more than a few days and then buried in an unknown location, this view does not really contradict what Paul says in corin 15 and I highly doubt religious Jew like James would say “my brother rotted….”

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July 15, 2023 - 9:16 am

Why assume that James knew what happened to the body? It seems pretty plausible that Jesus’ followers got the heck out of dodge and went back to Galilee and so had no idea what happened to the body.

That said, I disagree with Bart on this; I think the most likely thing is that he was given a hasty and unceremonious burial by the Sanhedrin. We know that the Sanhedrin took Deut. 21:22-23 seriously and maintained tombs in which to bury the people they had had crucified. That is an established historical practice, and might easily serve as the nugget buried in the story of Joseph of Arimathea.

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July 15, 2023 - 12:26 pm

rickgull
When jews in jesus timed talked about their dead, would they have disrespected their murdered family members by saying “my brother rotted on the cross” or would they have used respectable terms when addressing their dead family members who died unjustly or justly?

Steefen
They were not always respectable about the dead. It depends on how much they loved or hated the person.

Use Herod the Great, as an example.

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