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"Scribes and Pharisees" based in/roaming through Galilee: Fact or Fiction?
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Diogenes

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April 22, 2025 - 3:10 pm

All of the gospels refer to “scribes and Pharisees” questioning, confronting, and provoking Jesus. These clashes generally are represented as occurring during Jesus’ ministry in Galilee.

Is it feasible that “scribes and Pharisees” would have existed as distinct groups in the Galilee – which after all was something of a cultural and religious backwater bereft (as far as I know) of major Jewish learning centers?

If there were not scribes and Pharisees native to the Galilee religion , is it plausible that they would have been sent up from Jerusalem to tail the daring itinerant preacher? Or are these confrontations not to be regarded as historic at all – but rather as a reflection as later conflicts between the early Jewish-Christian communities and their Rabbinic adversaries?

If this has been answered already in this blog, please give me the appropriate link.

With much gratitude,
Diogenes

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Colin Milton

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April 22, 2025 - 4:17 pm

The Sadducees already had a Canonical bible, they were not writing anything new anymore, and were not open to new interpretations of the books of Moses and were not looking for a Messiah or anything Prophetic.

The Pharisees did not have such religious discipline as the Sadducees. Hence the Pharisees had scribes too, to write and interpret the old and new and they were curious over Jesus.

Rabbinic tradition begins after the Sadducees and Pharisees both agreed on a Canonical bible, which happened after the Jewish Roman Wars, about a century before the Christian Canonical bible was made official.

It’s not much possible to argue ideas of scripture interpretation with the Rabbis until they have a Canon for themselves which took a war to accomplish and still wasn’t finalized for a few more centuries with the Masoretic grammar which happened after the Christian Canon was made.

You can see even today, how they played intellectual games with Spiritual words instead of the Temporal results of war and Roman law.

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Stephen
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April 23, 2025 - 12:54 pm

Diogenes, welcome!

First of all the popular idea that the Galilee in Jesus’ day was a “backwater” is not accurate. The area had a large population and was an important center of Jewish culture and commerce. It was also a significant crossroads for travel. I think the thing to remember is that the gospels were written by literate elites who were projecting their own thoughts and concerns back into Jesus’ day and these authors had an imperfect understanding of the actual situation occurring while Jesus was alive.

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May 2, 2025 - 12:12 am

I have a small point to contribute and that is geography. Palestine is extremely small: you can hit all the sites today within a few days. Heck, I am told that from the highest point in the region (which is not very high by North American standards) you can see the whole land. So when we talk of Pharisees “traveling” to Galilee from Jerusalem we should not imagine great envoys on perilous journeys.

We should also remember that people traveled more back then than today–they had to. How else would information travel? No phones, no mailing system open to the public. News traveled bc people traveled.

I thus find no difficulty in accepting the itinerary of Pharisees as depicted in the gospels. They may very well have been tasked with investigation bc they already had plans to travel north. “I hear you must attend a funeral in Galilee; perhaps you could look into this person Yeshua from Nazareth…he’s a little off. Tell me what you learn.”

I also find no difficulty in understanding their concern over Jesus’ activities. Mark ascribes to Jesus an almost insolent disregard for purity issues: he is constantly touching people: Peter’s MIL; a leper; a dead girl. All of this the religious elite might turn a blind eye on…except that this unorthodox teacher had disciples (more than twelve), and that made him problematic.

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May 2, 2025 - 1:49 pm

Steve Campbell
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Sepphoris, also known as Tzippori or Zippori, was an ancient city in the Galilee region of what is now Israel, located about 4 miles from Nazareth. It was a significant Jewish-Roman city during the Roman period, serving as the capital of Galilee and known for its trade and wealth. Excavations have revealed various structures, including a theater, upper-class villas, ritual baths, and mosaics.

Scribes and Pharisees in Sepphoris, Galilee

Pharisees and scribes were present in Sepphoris during the late Second Temple period and early first century CE.
Here’s why:
1. Sepphoris was a major urban center in Galilee

After Herod the Great’s death in 4 BCE, Sepphoris (Tzippori in Hebrew) became the administrative capital of Galilee under Herod Antipas.

It was a cultural, political, and economic hub, attracting various segments of Jewish society, including religious authorities.

2. Josephus mentions Pharisees and scribes active in Galilee

Although he doesn’t specifically name Sepphoris in this context, Galilee more broadly had a notable presence of Pharisaic and scribal influence.

Josephus himself worked with Pharisees and described their influence on Jewish society and law.

3. Presence of Jewish institutions in Sepphoris

Archaeological finds suggest a strong Jewish presence in Sepphoris, including mikva’ot (ritual baths), stone vessels, and eventually, a synagogue with a mosaic floor dated slightly later.

These all point to a Jewish population observant of purity laws—something closely associated with Pharisaic traditions.

4. Rabbinic tradition connects Sepphoris to key figures

After the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE, Rabbi Judah ha-Nasi, compiler of the Mishnah, later settled in Sepphoris (early 3rd century CE).

This suggests a long-standing tradition of learning and scribal activity, likely with earlier roots.

5. Scribes (soferim) and Pharisees were common in centers of learning

Scribes were crucial to both religious and legal life, and Pharisees were often closely tied to them, emphasizing oral law and personal piety.

As a major city, Sepphoris would have had both to meet the needs of its population.

While we lack a specific text that says, “There were Pharisees and scribes in Sepphoris,” all the evidence from archaeology, history, and rabbinic tradition makes their presence there very likely—especially considering its role as a leading Jewish city in Galilee.

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Colin Milton

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May 2, 2025 - 3:38 pm

Judah was in the South. Samaria was in the middle. Galilee was in the North. To travel from Judah to Galilee there was danger in Samaria to deal with. The broken staff of Ephraim and Manasseh, Beauty and Bands, i.e. Samaria: Zechariah 11:10,11:14 (the whole chapter in context). The Bible I use for historical maps is a 1992 NIV 86-50028.

I suppose whomever was in Galilee might’ve been stuck there if danger was on High Alert traveling through Samaria. Travel Risk Adversary.

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