sorry let me ask    you a question

How is beelzebub ruling the world now?????? your point of view and or Jesus’s   

 did beelzebub cause that storm that Jesus hd to calm  in Matt 8 ? – I do not think there is any indiction of that  , but if you think so tell me

And how did these guys    Belial (ממשלת בליעל) and his spirits (רוחות בליעל) or the angels of his dominion (מלאכי ממשלתו). . . . . principality (ἀρχή), authority (ἐξουσία) and power (δύναμις). . . . . Beelzebul, the ruling demon (Βεελζεβούλ ὁ ἄρχων ὁ δαιμόνιον), and Satan (σατανᾶς)  manifest their powers ??   How do you think that Jesus thought??

I do know that Jesus said Satan had been causing the woman who had the hemorrhage to have suffered for many many years .   But I am not sure that was his general view on ALL sicknesses much less if that was his view in regards to physical death  at a suitably old age .

Though maybe not historical, but  it might show shows the gospel writers view of Satans ‘control’ within the this world world – Jesus called Peter Satan meaning Satan’s ‘control’ was in getting Jesus disciple to oppose God’s/Jesus’ mission   –  Satan is working with a human being, as his agent,  in opposition of God’s Will – he/satan isn’t causing earthquakes and storms – but maybe he standard apocalyptic view is that Satan is causing those also  

Ok, I guess I can see the possibility that  Jesus saw some diseases/afflictions as a result of evil spirits. Exorcisms are obvious examples and also the example in Lk 13:16 where Jesus said Satan had bound stooped over lady  for 18 years (my error, not the  the lady with hemorrhage) .   I am not sure the evidence is conclusive that all diseases are the result of evil spirits. that is what some real strong fundamentalists believe, Jesus I don’t know. 

Death, especially at a  suitable old age, I am not aware of any evidence that implies is the work of devils.  Getting back to topic of thread – to make that case that natural old-aged death is the result of beelzebub’s earthly dominion,  you need to insert your own interpretation on top of Jesus’ words of ‘life’  and ‘death’.   Do you agree?        

 Do you have any contrary examples that suggest Jesus had a naturalistic understanding of illness [death] ?
 

Seems to me unfair to ask me to provide counter-examples to prove for example that Jesus believed that for instance dead people remain  dead  [here using word ‘dead’ in literal sense]. Shouldn’t you be offering positive examples that he did not believe that, and pretty strong examples, if that is what you think is what he believed ? 

similarly that there will be no births and no deaths 

regarding resurrection there is one reference in book of daniel (which has tons of symbolism throughout) that makes  far from certain reference to the dead arising , but  no indication of end of births deaths, and or aging . which can easily be countered by ** you do not have permission to see this link ** ,  why is  one to supposed Jesus believed your particular unclear reference in Daniel opposed to a very clear wording in Ecclesiates ?

anyway regarding illness or at least physical disability 1/2 blindness in Kingdom of God we have  Jesus  Matt 5:29

Robert you led me down  wrong track, which I unfortunately commented on, before thinking , 

first I do not know what is a naturalistic understanding of illness (germs? viruses?). No Jesus did not understand those things  

 I have no opinion on whether Jesus had a coherent clear medical philosophy, for instance a  single the causes of all diseases,  nor what it might be .