John 8:26-49
No one has seen the Father, not even Moses.
Jesus is a replacement of Moses.
So, Moses and Elijah transfers the baton to the newness of Jesus Christ.
Holy Spirit:
Hallelujah.
Paul Wallis:
Get the discontinuity in your minds. There is clear blue water between the God of Moses and the God of Jesus.
We’ve been taught a story of continuity.
Alex Ferrari, Moderator of Next Level Soul Podcast:
The canon does not add up. There are too many holes in the plot.
Paul Wallis:
We have a basic conscience. Ask obvious question.
The moral behavior of Yahweh does not add up to the holiness/divinity in the Gospels [except Mark talking about the naked boy in the Garden of Gethsemene] to which we’re supposed to aspire.
Once you justify the God of the Old Testament, all hell [violence, xenophobia, and misogyny] breaks loose.
Yahweh: if you don’t serve me, all of my hell is going to break loose.
Jesus: I didn’t come to be served but to serve.
Paul Wallis: A 180 degree difference.
Paul Wallis:
You have to know Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32
Psalm 82: 1 Ba Adat (council of the gods/in the assembly of the gods)
El Elyon, the senior among the Elohim
God presides in the divine assembly;
He renders judgment among the gods:
Deuteronomy 32: 8-9
When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance,
when He divided the sons of man,
He set the boundaries of the peoples
according to the number of the sons of God.b
9But the LORD’s portion is His people,
Jacob His allotted inheritance.
v16: they went to foreign gods
v17 they sacrificed to demons instead of to God, to gods they had not known, to newly arrived gods, which your fathers did not fear.
50And there on the mountain that you climb, you will die and be gathered to your people, just as your brother Aaron died on Mount Hor and was gathered to his people.
51For at the waters of Meribah-kadesh in the Wilderness of Zin, both of you broke faith with Me among the Israelites by failing to treat Me as holy in their presence.
52Although you shall see from a distance the land that I am giving the Israelites, you shall not enter it.”
Paul Wallis:
We could have stories that are millions of years old that have been told to us by others who knew about them, or by visitors or observers who knew about them. So there is a lot of mystery as to where the stories begin, whose stories they originally were, and where exactly the story of humanity begins.
Steefen
God does not send us back to the land of Abraham, Iraq.
Jesus, the Word, does not send us back to the land of Abraham, Iraq.
F.E. Peters said we were Children of Abraham, but we do not go back to our father’s homeland.
pick up at 32:06 of 1:28:44
Paul Wallis says
Apostle Paul:
Yahweh has no role in Christianity
Paul’s resurrected body of Jesus is different from Mt, Mk, Lk, & Jn’s resurrected body of Jesus.
Apostle PAUL and Plato believed we were conscious beings. When the corruptible dies, the spiritual body is raised. Paul is NOT talking about a reanimated body of Jesus. Paul has an experience of Light.
Paul has Platonic thoughts, Buddhist thoughts, Hindu thoughts. Paul’s thoughts do not fit the orthodoxy of today–or “yesterday’s” orthodoxy of canonical gospels.
Christianity imported Yahweh. But Jesus broke with Yahweh–even though he professes scripture and Law.
p/u at 43:30 of 1 hour +
Dr. Ehrman,
The Disciples saw the resurrected Jesus.
Paul only saw the post-Ascension Jesus as Light.
The canonical gospels do not speak of Jesus appearing as Light to his disciples or to an audience of Paul and Jesus’ disciples.
I think his disciples were deserving of a Light appearance of Jesus.
Do you have a better answer why
1) The resurrected Jesus did not seek out Saul?
and
2) Why the post-Ascension Jesus did not appear as Light to his disciples and his brother James, mother Mary, Mary Magdalene or Paul AND any of the former?
The resurrected Jesus appears to more than 1 person but the Light Jesus appears to only Paul and maybe only Stephen, the Hellenist.
Thank you,
Ehrman:
Paul never refers to seeing a light and does not mention Jesus’ ascension.
Campbell:
Right, Luke 22:6 says there was a light and Paul as usual does not know well the biography of Jesus from Oral Tradition and from the gospel according to Luke.
1. The disciples saw the resurrected Jesus, not Paul and the resurrected Jesus did not seek out Saul to make him an apostle and introduce him to the remaining disciples.
2. The disciples of Jesus saw Jesus’ ascension according to the gospel of Luke. Paul wasn’t there and does not learn of this ascension, nor mentions it.
Still, Saul/Paul saw the death of Stephen, the Hellenist but did not keep an eye on the disciples to spy on them and learn whether or not Jesus was with them, dead or alive.
Paul discovers Jesus by revelation. Paul does not have his one or more revelations in the presence of brother of Jesus, James, mother of Jesus, Mary, Mary Magdalene, or the remaining disciples.
Why didn’t Jesus seek Saul before crucifixion or before ascension?
Why didn’t Jesus reveal himself to Saul in the presence of his remaining disciples, mother, or Mary Magdalene?
Paul Wallis:
12 sayings of Paul or Plato quotes where Paul changed a word here or there.
Steefen:
Do you list this somewhere?
How many are found in Luke?
Steve Campbell, Content Creator of the YouTube video:
2025-April-11: Jesus is Decius Mundus. – Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews 18.3.4
Re: Comment 11
Jesus and his disciples did nothing about Saul before crucifixion and nothing before Jesus’ ascension.
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Chronology
Letters of Paul – There was no blinding light.
Gospel of Luke – Saul persecutes the church beyond measure and 13 men do nothing.
Acts – There is a Platonic blinding light of Jesus appearing to Saul. Maybe this is Luke rewriting Paul’s biography.
Let’s see what Neal Sendlak has to say about it:
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