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Steefen
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April 7, 2025 - 8:15 pm

Bart and the audience here has looked at Revelation.
What did we say about Revelation 6?

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Colin Milton

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April 8, 2025 - 4:52 am

I see from Revelation 6:6 that the economy has undergone massive inflation since then. A penny can buy nothing these days. A dollar cannot even buy a day’s ration of food.

2000% inflation. A penny to twenty dollars.

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Steefen
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April 10, 2025 - 1:10 am

Christians are not supposed to think Jesus in Revelation is the return of Jesus?

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Porphyry

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April 10, 2025 - 5:53 pm

I see from Revelation 6:6 that the economy has undergone massive inflation since then. A penny can buy nothing these days. A dollar cannot even buy a day’s ration of food. 2000% inflation. A penny to twenty dollars.

I’m curious what you are using as the common term for that comparison.

At the time of Nero, a denarius was 3.4 grams of silver. In today’s spot prices, that is roughly $3.42. A 2lb bag of all-purpose flour is <$3 at my nearby Walmart, and I am informed that one pound of flour is roughly a quart.

If you are figuring in terms of labor–and taking 1 denarius as a day’s wages for a soldier or laborer–you can buy a lot more than a bag of flour on a day’s wages in any first-words economy.

Also, if a penny had gone to $20, that would be a lot more than 2000% inflation; it would be 200,000%. (200% of a penny is 2 pennies; 2,000% is 20 pennies, etc.)

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Colin Milton

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April 10, 2025 - 8:35 pm

The Geneva Bible used the word Penny, spelled penie.

equal to 1/240 Irish pound

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.0042 Irish pound = $0.01 in 2025 currency

says the Denarious was equal to the cost of 10 donkeys. Sounds like a scam.

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Porphyry

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April 11, 2025 - 2:01 am

The Geneva Bible used the word Penny, spelled penie. equal to 1/240 Irish pound

Perhaps so, but however the Geneva Bible renders δηνάριον, Revelation obviously wasn’t talking about an Irish penie.

the Denarious was equal to the cost of 10 donkeys

This is hilarious.

I was initially confused by this. When I searched, I did indeed find multiple pages making this claim.

Then it hit me: A denarius was worth 10 ** you do not have permission to see this link ** (plural of “as”, the Roman coin of bronze).

One or more dimwits read that a denarius was worth ten asses and thought it was talking about animals, not coins; and now it is all over the internet.

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Colin Milton

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April 11, 2025 - 6:56 am

Isaiah 62:8 mentions food and wine.

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Colin Milton

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April 11, 2025 - 9:42 am

Isaiah 63:10 is default verse to biblically explain why all Apocalyptic prophecy had not been fulfilled as expected. What the biblical God says is Conditional-do this and get that, do that and get this.

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July 3, 2026 - 2:28 pm

Steefen said
Christians are not supposed to think Jesus in Revelation is the return of Jesus?
  

Look at Revelation 6:6 talking about a quart of wheat for a denarius. It’s a fascinating historical footprint—we literally kept that Roman currency alive overseas to this very day in the form of the modern Dinar. But the actual book of Revelation? It is a forgery and a plagiarized apocalyptic text.
The School of Antioch knew this from the beginning and completely rejected it. It was excluded from the Aramaic Peshitta canon because the great Antiochian minds refused to accept Alexandrian mystical delusions.
Revelation mimics the style of pagan mystery cults and astral prophecies, which is exactly why modern critics use it to claim Christianity is a copycat religion. You critics are using a counterfeit, plagiarized book to attack the true Logos. If you want the truth of Jesus, you look at the grounded parables of the Bread of Life and the Servant (Talya) defended by Antioch—not the wild, hijacked nightmares of a book the truest scholars threw in the trash.
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