Bart, Author of Jesus Interrupted and Expecting Armageddon?
Those who do read it almost always suppose that it is talking about what will happen soon in our own future. I will be arguing that this view is absolutely wrong and sometimes (literally) disastrous.
Steve Campbell, Author of Historical Accuracy
The Book of Revelation can be dropped from the New Testament for my purposes.
The first Christian Apocalypse was AD70. That Tribulation was followed by a glorious Son of Man/Earth/Gaia (Gaius)/another Caesar–the reign of two Caesars: Emperor Vespasian and Emperor Titus.
The Book of Revelation goes against the grain. It vilifies Rome, the sponsoring empire of Judea. When you revolt, you lose the opportunity to diplomatically register a complaint against Roman governors in Judea, as done in times past.
So, here we come with another Apocalypse, a summer blockbuster at that. For me, the question is not, “Am I right to say reading Revelation as if it is speaking to us is absolutely wrong?” The question is, “Is Revelation a classic; does it have a message for repeating history; is it such a classic that it speaks beyond Ancient Jewish theological beliefs?”
The Book of Revelation was written during the reign of Domitian, sometime around 95-96 CE.
Church Fathers:
Great Fathers of the Western Church
Great Fathers of the Eastern Church
Apostolic Fathers
Greek Fathers
Latin Fathers
Syriac Fathers
Desert Fathers
Bart,
Did any of the church fathers write about the Book of Revelation?
If so, what did you find most important? Did you include that in your book?
Steefen
The Book of Revelation was written during the reign of Domitian, sometime around 95-96 CE.
Church Fathers:
Great Fathers of the Western Church: Ambrose, Jerome, Augustine of Hippo, and Pope Gregory
Great Fathers of the Eastern Church: Athanasius of Alexandria, Gregory of Nazianzus, Basil of Caesarea, and John Chrysostom
Apostolic Fathers includes Clement of Rome (c. 96)
Greek Fathers
Latin Fathers
Syriac Fathers
Desert Fathers
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I see the term “Ante-Nicene Fathers.”
The Ante Nicene Fathers is a term used to describe those theologians and writers who predate the Council of Nicaea [AD 325, month of May]. Study of the Ante-Nicene Fathers is included in the discipline of patristics.
Important Figures cane up from Wikiversity.
- Justin Martyr
- Irenaeus
- Origen
- Tertullian
- Athanasius
- Clement I
- Ignatius
- Polycarp
- Bardaisan of Edessa
- Marcion
Church Fathers:
Great Fathers of the Western Church
Great Fathers of the Eastern Church
Apostolic Fathers
Greek Fathers
Latin Fathers
Syriac Fathers
Desert Fathers
Bart,
Did any of the church fathers write about the Book of Revelation?
If so, what did you find most important? Did you include that in your book?
Bart
Yes, of course — some of them considered it Scripture. The first commentary we have is by Victorinus of Pettau, around 280 CE, but it was known and discussed already in the second century. I do talk about early interpretations in my book.
Steefen (curious who Victorinus of Pettau, so I googled)
Saint Victorinus of Pettau was an Early Christian ecclesiastical writer who flourished about 270, and who was martyred during the persecutions of Emperor Diocletian. A Bishop of Poetovio in Pannonia, Victorinus is also known as Victorinus Petavionensis or Poetovionensis. (Wikipedia)
St. Victorinus
An ecclesiastical writer who flourished about 270, and who suffered martyrdom probably in 303, under Diocletian.
He was bishop of the City of Pettau (Petabium, Poetovio), on the Drave, in Styria (Austria); hence his surname of Petravionensis or sometimes Pictaviensis, e.g. in the Roman Martyrology, where he is registered under 2 November, which long caused it to be thought that he belonged to the Diocese of Poitiers (France). Until the seventeenth century he was likewise confounded with the Latin rhetorician, Victorinus Afer. According to St. Jerome, who gives him an honourable place in his catalogue of ecclesiastical writers, Victorinus composed commentaries on various books of Holy Scripture, such as Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Isaias, Ezechiel, Habacuc, Ecclesiastes, the Canticle of Canticles, St. Matthew, and the Apocalypse, besides treatises against the heresies of his time.
All his works have disappeared save extracts from his commentaries on Genesis and the Apocalypse, if indeed these texts are really a remnant of his works, concerning which opinions differ. These latter with a critical annotation are published in Migne’s P.L., V (1844) 301-44. It is certainly incorrect to regard him as the author of two poems, “De Jesu Christo” and “De Pascha”, which are included in the collection of Fabricius. Born on the confines of the Eastern and Western Empires, Victorinus spoke Greek better than Latin, which explains why, in St. Jerome’s opinion, his works written in the latter tongue were more remarkable for their matter than for their style. Like many of his contemporaries he shared the errors of the Millenarians, and for this reason his works were ranked with the apocrypha by Pope Gelasius.
(newadvent.org)
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Millenarians / Britannica: millennialism, also called millenarianism or chiliasm, the belief, expressed in the book of Revelation to John, the last book of the New Testament, that Christ will establish a 1,000-year reign of the saints on earth (the millennium) before the Last Judgment.
Wikipedia: Millenarianism, from Latin mīllēnārius “containing a thousand”, is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming fundamental transformation of society, after which “all things will be changed”.
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