In my last post I started to resume my recollections of my mentor, the great textual scholar Bruce Metzger. In this post I recall when he first showed me I was a lousy writer.
In graduate school different professors have different approaches to evaluating and grading term papers. Some professors are completely anal about it and insist on correcting every mistake, rewriting every sentence, and reformulating every idea. Not many are that way, thankfully, since doing all this takes an enormous chunk of time (and a very large ego). I never had a professor like that, but I have known some over the years. Others make extremely judicious and helpful comments, sometimes at great length. My teacher Paul Meyer was like that at Princeton Seminary. The comments he made on our papers were in depth, always on target, and superior in quality to any of the scholarship we read all semester in the class. Meyer never published much himself – he threw himself into his students instead; we used to threaten to extract his comments from our papers and to publish them as articles for him.
Other professors (at the other extreme) say almost nothing on the papers – just give it a grade, with maybe a remark on the front page. I have a friend who did graduate work at Yale in the early 1980s; one of his New Testament professors turned back an exegesis paper of his, on which he had worked very hard for weeks, with a grade and a single comment: “Not an altogether pedestrian attempt.” (!)
Metzger was not someone who spent a lot of time writing comments on papers. He would make some kind of compliment on the front page and give it a grade. This made it very hard to know what, exactly, he really thought about it. The one thing he would do is correct grammar and punctuation. He was a real stickler for the correct placement of adverbs and for the proper use of commas and semi-colons. But one always wished for a bit more substance.
The one time he really worked over something I had written was on my dissertation proposal. It was my first semester in my PhD program, and at the time he was the chairman of the Graduate Studies Committee that was responsible for passing all proposals. A proposal is a written exposition of what the dissertation is going to be about. In the proposal (I think ours were only 5-7 pages; where I teach at UNC they are more commonly 20 pages or so), we were supposed to indicate what we were planning to do in the dissertation, how we were going to proceed in doing it, and why it needed to be done. A dissertation is supposed to advance scholarship – meaning, among other things, that you cannot write a dissertation that is on a topic and that takes a position that can already be found in someone else’s dissertation or in a published book. It has to be genuine, new research that provides insights not otherwise known before. It’s hard. And in effect, it is (for almost everyone) your first book.
The dissertation advisor has to guide the student through the procedure both of writing the proposal and of producing the dissertation. So I consulted with Metzger about what I would be doing in my dissertation on the Gospel text of Didymus the Blind (I’ll explain more about that in a subsequent post) and wrote up my proposal.
The tricky thing in my case was this. Princeton Theological Seminary is, of course, a Christian denominational school (Presbyterian), and is intent in training future ministers of the church (in the Masters of Divinity program) and in developing theological disciplines (e.g., among the PhD students). Any dissertation that does not deal with theology is widely frowned upon and discouraged. But I was not interested in writing about theology. I was interested in the Greek manuscript tradition of the New Testament and with how to establish both what the original New Testament said and how the text had been changed over the years. I was not interested in the theological importance of this information. I was interested in the historical aspects of the study.
Metzger was completely in support of the project and its agenda, and he too saw it as highly important. But as chair of the committee that had to approve dissertations, he knew that mine would come under very careful scrutiny by professors who were loath to accept anything that did not advance a theological agenda. Several dissertations in the past had had problems, when, like mine, they were more interested in history than theology.
And that’s why Metzger really worked over my proposal for style and substance. He did not want it to fail the committee – especially when he was both chairing the committee and directing the dissertation. When I turned in my proposal to him in advance of submitting it to the committee, I expected him to do his typical thing of correcting my adverbs and commas. But not this time. He found me in the library, said he wanted to talk to me, and took me into a small private room. He worked me over for about half an hour (it seemed like hours). It was painful. He went line by line through my proposal, showing why what I said was problematic or stylistically flawed. And then he told me to go do it again.
I was absolutely devastated. But at the same time, I was also honored he had gone to all the trouble, impressed by how brilliantly he could read and dissect a paper when he really wanted to, and determined never to make those kinds of mistakes again. It was one of the factors in my decision that I really wanted to learn how to write well – something that is learned and earned, not something you are born with.
Wow! That was beautiful! So many questions come to my mind!
But before I ask one, I would like to point out a certain element that I’ve detected in really great teachers over the years: it’s their genuine (in that they sincerely care first and foremost for the truth) and humble (in that their knowledge is far superior, yet they are most respectful) encouragement of their students.
Now, to my question: what is the most important realization you’ve had about your ability to write well? You’ve written so many succesful books and articles and what have you – what do you think they share in common? Is it a particular attitude? Or particular writing techniques you employ? If you had to pinpoint 1 key feature of your succesful writing, what would that be?
Ah, that would be tough. But I guess what I think is most important for my writing is having my own voice, seeking wide variety of expression, finding the right word (especially when it is a bit unusual but completely understandable), and keeping it intelligence with a bit of occasional wit and humor, rather than simply trying to be correct and using the standard jargon in teh field. Metzger taught me that.
Thank you for your honest and fascinating answer! I can see all these gems you’re highlighting both in your writing and in your oral communication. Especially your sense of humor is really penetrative and I think it achieves maybe more than you would expect. I also wanted to ask you what Mr. Metzger taught you, and you talked of this also! Thank you very much.
Um, keeping it ‘intelligent,’ not intelligence. Not noun
— adverb, Professor…. 😉
Did your thesis make any waves?
Yup, scribal corruption of the text. The dissertation was teh first in a series called The New Testament in the Greek Fathers. It promoted a new way of analyzing patristic citations of the New Testament that was then followed by other studies on important figures such as Cyril of Alexandria, Athanasius, Basil the Great, etc. etc.
As an editor, what has always struck me as the key virtue of your writing is its clarity. Despite the sometimes esoteric subject matter, it’s always easy to read. Aware that you sometimes discuss things most of your audience have never heard of, your judgment of how much explanation and background context to offer is consistently spot on, as is your judgment of when to remind readers of something you said earlier.
I’ve typically read each of your books in one or two sittings, and that only happens when a nonfiction book is both intellectually delectable and mentally digestible.
THanks! It is indeed what I strive for. ANd I really appreicate it in other authors, talking about things I know nothing about.l
Did he teach you to use hyperbole so effectively? Example: You said donations to the blog will benefit not just us and the less fortunate but the whole universe! (See post on 12/19/18.)
Ah, no, I’m afraid that’s my touch. (!) De. Metzger was not inclined to hyperbole. (And he always thought that I was a bit colloquial in how I talked; but he did say that he could see how that could be effective, even though I he did find it a bit puzzling)
I am on the editorial board of a peer reviewed journal (for literary scholarship devoted to a particular author). The review is “double blind,” such that the reviewers are not supposed to know who is submitting the paper being evaluated, and the person submitting the paper does not know who is evaluating it. Most papers get three evaluators, and quite a few go through more than one round of review. (I recently almost had a paper rejected because, in trying to adhere to the principle of not identifying myself in the paper, I was accused of not giving sufficient credit to an already widely published scholar, namely myself. That complication was resolved by the general editor, and my final draft will include references that were just too weird to attempt in the third person.) Once papers are published, of course, the identity is known (and in some cases the identity is known because a paper has been presented at a conference). It is consistently a shock to see how badly professional academics write, even those who teach literature and writing. It is heart-warming to see that your professor took the time and care to make such a difference.
Yes, it really is amazing how some well-published authors cannot write well. Or, just as often, don’t care if they do. Their IDEAS are so important it (apparently) doesn’t matter!
This is a story about being accepted as an equal into the guild, I think, and is the happy version of the tale. Some folks I know with Ph.D.s in all sorts of fields tell horror stories about the miserable SOBs who directed their dissertations, so it’s always gratifying to read about someone’s story with a good ending. I took a Ph.D. in Creative Writing (so you can just imagine the attention that was paid to every jot, tittle, and delshofner in that field) and I also had a supportive but stern dissertation advisor who helped me to see down the road that would end (some distant day) with me being an author of books. The hardest thing for me to communicate to people sometimes is that taking years of coursework in grad school is the easy part, and that the hurdles constructed between you and an approved dissertation are the toughest to overcome.
YEah, it’s not an easy road, no matter who your advisor is. But some advisors make matters worse!
,,, well, my Norwegian-English would at best not survived more than one line 🙂
I recall writing my first paper in Graduate School. I spent hours on the product. My research lasted several weeks and I thought the work involved several original ideas. Proofreading every detail was so important to me and I devoted much time to checking adverbs, spellings, punctuation, etc. These were the days before desktop computers and word processors. It took me what seemed like forever to get a polished typewritten manuscript. The day came for me to submit my work. The professor took one look at the paper and said “The watermark is upside down. Redo it!”
I harbored many unchristian thoughts, but I always check the watermark.
Wow. OK then…
Completely off-topic, but there appears to be a mess-up on the following page in the “Books Published” section of your web-site:
https://www.bartdehrman.com/the-text-of-the-new-testament-in-contemporary-research/
(That is, most of the text on the page appears to be the text for the page for the 4th Ed. Of “The Text of the NT”.)
[P.S. No need to “publish” this comment.]
Thanks. I’ll look into it.
I’m still relatively new to the world of biblical scholarship. I wasn’t sure if places like Princeton encouraged “pushing a theological agenda”.
Is this universal or are there even more “secular” institutions that study the same subject matter?
If there’s a religious motive to most I can see why being an atheist bible scholar would be controversial.
I would say that no one admits to favoring “pushing a theological agenda.” Almost everyone/everywhere claims simply to be speaking “the truth.” Only on the outside is it (often clear) that in fact there is a clear agenda being pushed. But Princeton THeological Seminary is indeed consciously invested in approaching their intellectual tasks from a theological perspective, and they see that as both appropriate and important. (There would be a different between approaching a text with theological issues and asserting a .particular theological agenda). But in terms of subject matter, yes, I teach at a secular institution and my graduate students study these topics without approaching them theologically, let alone pushing a theological agenda
This is a great story! How wonderful to have such a mentor! It appears his efforts have born much fruit! (And wit!). With gratitude…
I feel that you deserve great respect, for a well known author world wide, to have admitted your difficulty, initial problems in writing and had felt being down. Looking back, “I was absolutely devastated”, I suppose you have no regrets, having made tremendous improvements and is now a recognized author.
Yeah it was tough, but as a competitive spirit, I shouldered it with a No Pain No Gain attitude, and since it didn’t crush me, it did in the end help a lot. I”ve had a lot of grad students over the years who have been praised for their work up and down the line by encouraging professors, but never told what they really need to do in order to get to where they need to be to succeed as scholars. It can be very difficult. But I’ve often had former students tell me that no one had *ever* told them they needed to learn how to write until they met me. At that level (graduate studies) I believe in being honest as well as doing my utmost to help students make it happen…
I love your old Metzger posts, Bart.
You really oughta collect ’em and publish ’em in a volume entitled *Metzger and Me*, lol.
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War was raging in Vietnam. I was working full time in Boston, and majoring in “draft deferment” at a state college. In high school, while an avid read, I had often disagreed with English teachers. And I’d never gotten good marks in English. They made us write without teaching us how. So, Eng 101 in Boston, and the instructor tells us to buy a textbook titled The Complete Stylist, and then proceeds to show us, in the text and two class sessions, how to write, how to structure a compelling argument, where to place that crucial hook, at the end of the first paragraph. I’ve forgotten his name, but will ever be grateful to that man.
For a sample titled FLOODS, ART, and GLOBAL WARMING, visit my blog. (No ads, no sales, no tracking.) MeridaGOround dot com . Years later I was admitted into a grad program, MTS, at Harvard Divinity, but dropped out as I couldn’t read biblical Hebrew, which bent my brain.
Thank you for this post. It is very timely.
This is, perhaps, only indirectly relevant to the specific post, as a personal reflection, but I am interested in Dr. Ehrman’s transformation from evangelical Christian to skeptic. I was raised in an unremarkable Christian family, but not in an evangelical context. (We went to church on Sundays, prayed quietly and said grace, but never engaged in trying to “convert the heathens.”) I have never had a born again experience, or felt that I was in direct communication or the presence of God or Jesus. I have always been aware of the differences between various traditions, and I have pretty much always rolled my eyes when someone says that they have a personal relationship to God or Jesus, or the totally meaningless phrase “Jesus is the answer” (without specifying the corresponding question). For Dr. Ehrman, I think it is interesting that his faith originally set him on his current path, and that following that path ultimately led him to a position very different than he would originally have anticipated. If it is not too personal, I would be interested in some examination of what it felt like to be a convinced, born-again evangelical, observed objectively now from his current position.
My upbringing was a lot like yours, with the exception then of the “born-again” thing. I suppose I don’t have an “objective” view of things now, simply a different subjective one. But from the subjective side, I think it sure must have felt good and powerful for me to have all the answers to the Big Questions of life!!