JAS said
mzejum said
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I am not a scholar or an apologist by the way. Its just a part time thing for me.
clearly
but i have Clearly provided Proof from he bible without Ripping verses out of Context like the way evangelist do to Isaiah 7 ,Isaiah 53 and the rest.
The Truth must be said and be Put out. the decision is Yours to agree or not to agree with it.
mzejum said
but i have Clearly provided Proof from he bible without Ripping verses out of Context like the way evangelist do to Isaiah 7 ,Isaiah 53 and the rest.
The Truth must be said and be Put out. the decision is Yours to agree or not to agree with it.
The only thing you have “proven” is not at all what you think it is. But if it makes you feel better to think otherwise, enjoy your bliss; it is unlikely to matter to anyone else anyway.
Robertus said
mzejum said
… By the way the Phrase you mentioned that it was written “i will strike the shepherd and the sheep will be scattered” , indeed it was written in Zechariah 13:7 and if you continue reading the verses below Zechariah 13:7 has it got any event with what happened on that night. if a writer quotes a wrong Prophesy that is a falsified prophesy. For example Mathew 1:23 Quotes Isaiah 7:14 was Jesus the son Prophesied at the time of King Ahaz. definitely not.
you should be able to sieve what you read as an alleged prophecy, Go back read where it was referenced and you being an expert should be able to see if it is a true Prophesy or one of the Falsified Prophecies.
the part of my point that you did not understand is that whenever Jesus said “as it is written” it is something that existed in a scripture at his time and before his time, definitely Psalms and Torah , and not something in Mark.
No, I definitely understood your point, but I don’t share your belief expressed here in true and false prophecy and I am much more skeptical about some of Jesus sayings that you seem to consider historical. Sorry for the delay in responding. Super busy at work these days.
I said FALSIFIED Prophecy and Not false Prophecy. the way i understand it is that a falsified is a prophecy that is not Wrong but it was Made to look as if it was meant for soemone else and false Prophecy is definitely a wrong prophecy. which does not Happen like the sign of Jonah of 3 days and 3 nights.
There was conflicting records of events going around. The Roman Empire had to put their foot down and declare what the official record of events would be from then on within the Roman Empire.
1) Moreover, he who is an adherent of the Nicene Faith, and a true believer in the Catholic religion, should be understood to be one who believes that Almighty God and Christ, the Son of God, are one person, God of God, Light of Light; and let no one, by rejection, dishonor the Holy Spirit, whom we expect, and have received from the Supreme Parent of all things, in whom the sentiment of a pure and undefiled faith flourishes, as well as the belief in the undivided substance of a Holy Trinity, which true believers indicate by the Greek word ousia. These things, indeed, do not require further proof, and should be respected.
(2) Let those who do not accept these doctrines cease to apply the name of true religion to their fraudulent belief; and let them be branded with their open crimes, and, having been removed from the threshold of all churches, be utterly excluded from them, as We forbid all heretics to hold unlawful assemblies within cities. If, however, any seditious outbreak should be attempted, We order them to be driven outside the walls of the City, with relentless violence, and We direct that all Catholic churches, throughout the entire world, shall be placed under the control of the orthodox bishops who have embraced the Nicene Creed.
Given at Constantinople, on the fourth of the Ides of January, under the Consulate of Flavius Eucharius and Flavius Syagrius.
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