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Great Courses - No Excuses: Existentialism and the Meaning of Life and Astrology
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Steefen
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June 19, 2020 - 4:52 pm

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Astronomers  have  identified  Pluto as  part  of  a group  of  similar  bodies  that  compose  the  so-called  Kuiper belt. Does  the  Kuiper  belt  have  astrological  significance?   

I have not come across the Kuiper belt as an object included in charts for astrological reading.

Astronomers  have  reason  to  think  there  is  an  as  yet  undiscovered  planet beyond  the  Kuiper  Belt.   
Are  astrologers  discussing  this  possibility? 

I have enough work to do with discovered Solar System objects to be included in charts for interpretation. If astrologers are discussing this possibility, I’m not tracking the discussion.  

 

Yet  upon  its discovery  in  1930  Pluto  was  rapidly  incorporated  into  the  astrological  mythos.    Subsequently  we  have discovered  that  Pluto is  one  of  a  larger class  of  bodies,  frozen  remnants  of  the  primordial  goo  out  of  which  the  Solar  System  formed.   Fossils  of  creation.    And  now  the  possibility of  the  existence  of  a  previously  unknown  planet!    Surely  all  this  would  be  a  fertile  area  of  research for  devotees  of  astrology?

Or  is  astrology  simply  a  psychic  construct  which  may  or  may  not  have  an  analogue  with  physical  reality?  

The dichotomy is wrong if applicable.

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July 9, 2020 - 2:19 pm

Bart
Why is this happening to us?

Steefen
It is happening to us because some people want to gain power and money from it.
You wrote about Heaven and Hell but did not write about Evil as a risk of seeking power and money?

It is happening to us and those who can prevent it from happening stand down.

Here’s a video about what this happening has done for start-ups
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Let’s stand-down our reasoning capabilities. Instead of counting cases as 1 case equals 1 case, let’s count cases as 1 case equals 15 cases and use that to gain power to pull something over people. Let’s not talk about Vitamin D, Vitamin K, or asthma medicine, that will not make us enough controlled profit. We will create vaccine companies, we will create start-ups, so we can control a new stream of income.

I’m living in Texas.
Here is how my county government is following the rules to inflate the number of cases by 15 times.
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Here is the asthma medicine that takes away the grab for power and money.
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In conclusion, why should it be more than criminal activity for power and money, Bart?

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July 9, 2020 - 9:50 pm

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Stephen
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July 9, 2020 - 10:29 pm

Better to believe that there are Dark Forces behind  the  scenes  manipulating events rather than accept the reality that we live in  a  probabilistic contingent  universe with no grand  design whatsoever, where  the human  race  owes its  domination  of  the  earth to the fact that  66 million  years ago  a comet or meteor impact caused the mass extinction of 75% of all living organisms clearing the eco-system and allowing our pre-human ancestors to flourish – the celestial equivalent of a  traffic accident.  

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December 28, 2020 - 9:05 pm
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December 28, 2020 - 10:55 pm

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Steefen said

6,317,111 views: EXCLUSIVE: Dr. Rashid Buttar BLASTS Gates, Fauci, EXPOSES Fake Pandemic Numbers As Economy Collapses

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Oh snap! Dr. Rashid Buttar’s video in your link was removed from YouTube. I was hoping to revisit Dr. Buttar’s discussion of 5G as a cause of COVID-19. But, in addition to this thread, we also have a record of Dr. Buttar’s views in Wikipedia:

During the 2019-20 coronavirus pandemic, a series of videos featuring Buttar were posted to YouTube by the fake news website[24][25] Next News Network. In these videos, Buttar advanced a conspiracy theory claiming that NIAID director Anthony Fauci’s research helped to create COVID-19. He made many other false claims, such as that 5G cell phone networks and “chemtrails” cause COVID-19.[13][26][27] YouTube removed the video a week after it was posted, replacing it with a message saying, “This video has been removed for violating YouTube’s Community Guidelines.”[27]

24.Lewis, Paul (February 2, 2018). “‘Fiction is outperforming reality’: how YouTube’s algorithm distorts truth”. The Guardian. Retrieved May 3, 2020.

25. Timberg, Craig (November 24, 2016). “Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say”. The Washington Post. Retrieved May 3, 2020.

26. Cook, Jesselyn (April 7, 2020). “A Toxic ‘Infodemic’: The Viral Spread Of COVID-19 Conspiracy Theories”. Huffington Post. Retrieved May 1, 2020.

27. Kaplan, Alex (April 20, 2020). “YouTube took down a coronavirus conspiracy theory video for violating its rules, but it’s making money through ads on reuploads”. Media Matters for America. Retrieved May 1, 2020.

Turns out your Dr. Buttar may have company with his theory about 5G causing the COVID-19 pandemic:

Early reports suggest the FBI is investigating whether Warner (who law enforcement officials say set off the bomb from a recreational vehicle outside an AT&T building) was influenced by conspiracy theories about 5G technology.

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I recommend anyone interested in responding to Robert first watch the video at the url below.
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First, Newsweek did run an article that Fauci did fund gain of function research in Wuhan.

Second, the videos I recall with Dr. Buttar included Dr. Mikovitz; so, I recommend anyone interested in responding to Robert also read the book Plague of Corruption by Judy Mikovitz.

Here is a sample of the information Judy Mikovitz has discussed with Robert Kennedy, Jr.

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So, Robert, after you correct or admit that your Wikipedia article is erroneous that it is a conspiracy that Fauci funded Wuhan gain of function research, after you watch the two videos provided, any further comments by you might be in a serious league worthy of consideration.

We look forward to content-based rebuttals from you about the two videos: 1) Derrick Broze and 2) Mikovitz/Robert Kennedy, Jr.

Is the Nashville line supposed to be a link?

Again, the unavailable Buttar youtube video probably was not about 5g, it was likely about the coronavirus not being 100% natural but x% created in a lab.

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However, staying on topic, the book, the Plague by Albert Camus and existentialism is the topic. The coronavirus “pandemic” is just a current events topic that may be used to bring relevance to the Plague by Camus.

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December 29, 2020 - 12:09 am
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December 29, 2020 - 12:54 am

Robert said

Steefen said 

Again, the unavailable Buttar youtube video probably was not about 5G … 

Nope. Sorry. Your Buttar video, among other things, was indeed also about 5G being a cause of the COVID-19 virus, as has been documented by Wikipedia. If you no longer wish to endorse that aspect of Buttar’s theory, that’s good. 

  

The Buttar video was about Fauci and Mikovitz. 5G MAY have been mentioned or it may NOT have been mentioned. Buttar made many videos at that time. You are bringing up 5G. The only thing that made an impression on me about 5G was when a pole with a 5G box was placed next to a tree, the side of the tree with the 5G was not in good health but the side of the tree opposite the 5G placement box was healthy.

I am willing to look into the 5G coronavirus connection as introduced in the Derek Broze video.

Your recall is erroneous. 5G has not been rolled out globally. I would not think one could have coronavirus cases where there is no 5G. If you heard Buttar say something about 5G, fine; but, that illustrates you have problems knowing what is important in a video vs. what is less important, what is a strong case in a presentation and what is not a strong case in a presentation.

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December 29, 2020 - 1:08 am

And here is the link to the Newsweek article about Fauci and Wuhan

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December 29, 2020 - 1:24 am

It seems the title of the video was

6,317,111 views: EXCLUSIVE: Dr. Rashid Buttar BLASTS Gates, Fauci, EXPOSES Fake Pandemic Numbers As Economy Collapses

The title of the video does not mention 5G. To whatever extent the video mentions 5G, it is not important enough even to put in the title. As I said, you need to be able to discern what is important and what is not important, what the presenter’s main points are that are developed versus points or terms that are not.

The Derrick Broze video is specifically and centrally discussing the connection between 5G and coronavirus. So until you study that video, you are unable to make valuable contributions to this thread, Robert. And if the Broze video makes valid points, better for Buttar if Buttar discussed 5G and coronavirus in a teachable way.

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December 29, 2020 - 7:13 am
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The  Conspiracy  Theory  of  History  is  fascinating  because  of  how  revealing  it  is  of  human  nature.    A  substantial  portion  of  our  population  would  rather  believe  that  Dark  Forces  are  in  charge  behind  the  scenes  than  admit  how  pointless  and  contingent  reality  is.    

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