Abydos was active as a center for the worship of Osiris from at least the Old Kingdom (c. 2686 BCE) until the Roman period (into the 4th century CE), with its peak as a religious hub occurring in the Middle Kingdom and New Kingdom.
occurring in the Middle Kingdom and New Kingdom.
occurring in the Middle Kingdom and New Kingdom.
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Abydos initially rose to prominence during the Old Kingdom as an important burial site for Egypt’s earliest kings. By this time, Osiris was already associated with kingship and the afterlife, although his role as a central deity in the Egyptian pantheon was still developing.
Early Dynastic Period kings (before the Old Kingdom) were buried in Abydos, and the site was associated with royal necropolises. The association of the dead kings with Osiris, who would become the god of the dead, likely contributed to the city’s sacred status.
Your contention, if you are contending Isis did not temporarily bring Osiris to life–you DID leave that out-would have been something that was decided before the end of the Middle Kingdom.
What, bodily fluids moved out of a dismembered Osiris?
Osiris was separated into how many pieces?
ChatGPT said:
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According to the myth, Osiris was separated into 14 pieces after his brother Set killed him. Set dismembered Osiris’s body and scattered the pieces across Egypt.
In the story, Isis, Osiris’s wife, searched for and recovered all but one of the pieces of his body—the phallus, which was either consumed by fish or lost in the Nile River, depending on the version of the myth. To complete Osiris’s body, Isis magically fashioned a replacement for the missing piece and resurrected Osiris through her magic and ritual, allowing him to conceive their son, Horus. However, Osiris did not return to the world of the living but instead became the ruler of the underworld (Duat).
The division of Osiris’s body into 14 parts is symbolic, with some interpretations suggesting that the number represents the phases of the moon, tying Osiris to themes of death, rebirth, and regeneration.
Many pieces of Osiris’ body was in the Nile river. This water-logged body needed to be magically or miraculously brought back to life, get the blood and fluids flowing again for ejaculation into Isis. I’m sure the heart was cut off from pelvis. This body needed to be brought back to life. Face it, there would be no Isis and Horus mother and child icon otherwise.
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Die with Osiris, rise with Osiris in the afterlife.
Get baptized with Jesus, rise with Jesus in the afterlife.
In the story, Isis, Osiris’s wife, searched for and recovered all but one of the pieces of his body—the phallus, which was either consumed by fish or lost in the Nile River, depending on the version of the myth. To complete Osiris’s body, Isis magically fashioned a replacement for the missing piece and resurrected Osiris through her magic and ritual, allowing him to conceive their son, Horus. However, Osiris did not return to the world of the living but instead became the ruler of the underworld (Duat).
You should listen to ChatGPT. Note the bolded line.
Die with Osiris, rise with Osiris in the afterlife.
Yes, Isis brought Osiris to life in the underworld through the process of mummification.
Get baptized with Jesus, rise with Jesus in the afterlife.
Nope. In apocalyptic Judaism the Son Of Man would establish God’s kingdom on the earth, and resurrect the believers bodily to live in that earthly kingdom. The Temple would be rebuilt in Jerusalem and Yahweh would dwell there. Early Christians believed that Jesus would be God’s Messiah, his “anointed one” to rule his kingdon.
Mythicists begin by making an association and finding an equivalence that simply doesn’t exist. Their views rest on a comparison without nuance. The great scholar Jonathon Z Smith called it, parallelomania. Lesser thinkers such as your humble correspondent would call it, Begging the Question, an informal logical fallacy where the question assumes the conclusion. The only way you can find an equivalence between Jesus and Osiris is to assume it already exists before you look at the data.
Well folks this is where I came in…
Stephen:
In apocalyptic Judaism the Son Of Man would establish God’s kingdom on the earth, and resurrect the believers bodily to live in that earthly kingdom. The Temple would be rebuilt in Jerusalem and Yahweh would dwell there. Early Christians believed that Jesus would be God’s Messiah, his “anointed one” to rule his kingdon.
Steefen:
Apocalyptic Judaism is a failed hypothesis.
Matthew 16: 28
Instead of the Son of Man coming in his kingdom, the kingdom of Israel was destroyed and its Temple.
Nope, Stephen, you are 100% wrong.
You can have the last word because I do as others do: not have entertain who pretend they do not see
Chat GPT:
Isis resurrected Osiris through her magic and ritual.
If you have faith in Jewish Apocalypticism and you want to wait for it after it has failed, that is your problem.
Keep waiting but do not expect people should join you.
Isis put Osiris together and resurrected Osiris” body on the Earth plane.
The spirit of Osiris helped Dead Egyptians get through the journey of regeneration of Ra, the Egyptian sun god, through the 12 hours of the night from sunset (symbolising death) to sunrise (symbolising rebirth).
I was wrong! Jonathon Z Smith did not invent the term parallelomania as I said. I have found a reference using the word in an article as old as 1962. In that case concerned with spurious comparisons between features of the old Testament and other ANE texts. The movement, which sprang from the so-called “History of Religions” school, was called Pan-Babylonianism. Modern Mythicists inherit the same misconcepions. The impulse to “connect all the dots” and “fill in every blank space” is with us always, alas.
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