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If you could ask the historical Jesus 3 questions, what would they be?
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Neurotheologian

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May 9, 2019 - 3:18 am
Just looking into first this 1st century aramaic business, I gather the holy grail we seek is the so-called Galillean Dialect.  I note from a Wikipedia article on the Galillean dialect ** you do not have permission to see this link **

By the way, why are we talking about first centuary aramaic?

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godspell

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May 9, 2019 - 9:21 am

Because that’s the only language we know Jesus could converse in, this thread is about a hypothetical conversation with him, and far as I know, nobody here is a Starfleet officer.  Or a Time Lord. 

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godspell

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May 9, 2019 - 9:23 am

Neurotheologian said

You could try: ‘Eloi Eloi, Larger Sabacathani’  

Now you’ve got me wondering what Aramaic for beer is.  I see absolutely no mention of suds in the scriptures.  Better stick to wine, if you don’t want to stick out. 

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May 9, 2019 - 10:23 am
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godspell

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May 9, 2019 - 11:04 am

Well of course Akkadians drink beer.  Duane ‘The Rock’ Johnson is an Akkadian.  Or he was in that movie.  😐

I would think a dry climate would be precisely where you’d most want a cold brewski, but maybe this gag has run its course.  I think we’ve at least answered the question of whether Jesus was the kind of guy you could have a beer with.  You’d have to explain to him what beer was first.  Then maybe he could whip up some quality Belgian Ale out of water.  My Lord and Savior.  😉

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May 9, 2019 - 11:11 am
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godspell

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May 9, 2019 - 11:29 am

Some really first-rate Belgian-styles being made in America and Canada now.  Though I rarely find them at my local anymore (the IPA’s are crowding them out).  Yuengling is a tad bitter for my palate, but they were ahead of the curve there, since American brews run more and more towards hoppiness.  We are way off-topic. 

Let me try to get us back–Jesus drank alcohol.  That cannot be questioned.  American Protestants sometimes tried to say it was just grape juice.  Yeah.  They kept it in the fridge so it wouldn’t ferment.  Why not? 

I know that in that time period, wine was made in a very potent concentrated form, then diluted with water–easier to transport, and in dilute form, you could use it to slake your thirst.  The alcohol would presumably kill off bacteria to some extent, so less likely to get sick from a compromised water supply.  You’d still get buzzed, since a lot more was imbibed, over the course of hours.  A way of unwinding, social lubrication, conducive to relaxed interaction and (sometimes) enlightened discourse.

So–Jesus got drunk.  How much does this explain?  And might we get more answers out of him (those of us who speak Aramaic) if we brought a skinful of the good stuff to his cell prior to the crucifixion?  (Bring a few extra for the guards.)

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Two bots for the price of one! Two more notches on my virtual cannon. I love visiting these old dead threads on my bot hunt.

Yep, Belgian beer is the best. But it’s so dang expensive. Thus an occasional indulgence.

I was raised by hardcore teetotalers so perhaps that explains why I’m rather an indifferent drinker. It’s just not an important part of my life so I go months between quaffs.

Confession is good for the soul, right? Back in my 20s I was a serious cannabis abuser. You could still get high quality hashish. (The main accomplishment of the War on Drugs was to make the soft drugs difficult or impossible to acquire but make crack and amphetamines easy to get. Sometimes I think that must have been planned. But of course we shouldn’t confuse malevolence with bone stupidity.) Now that cannabis is legal in many places and easy to get, I find I’ve completely lost interest. Go figure.

My vice is books! Consider this a cry for help.

As to the actual subject of this thread, when the Time Machine comes I’m going to leave Jesus and Paul to the experts who’ll know what questions to ask. I want to talk to the marginal folks, the hangers-on in the community. The people who are committed but not in the inner circle. What did they think? I would like to talk to the author of Mark though.

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March 1, 2025 - 9:33 pm

godspell! It’s been awhile. I do not miss him but Spiker … Magpie and I enjoyed him in spite of everything.

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What I have found in my occasional foray into these long dead posts is some interesting conversations, and some wonderfully unique personalities and perspectives.

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