Ok so I think the claim might be that he’s ethnically Jewish by the rules of the time, but Jesus is not Orthodox Jewish or Second Temple Jewish?

I agree with that.

(in my opinion which y’all know, it’s because he’s realigning the traditions to their Mesopotamian origin, like someone who believes in cultural diffusion. Gemini 3 Pro: ** you do not have permission to see this link **) tells me that the Eblaite Hayya “The Living One” makes Yah through Amorite, so Iah/Yah can be just two brothers from another mother.)

The rules at the time:

• Jesus comes out of a Jewish womb

• Joseph merely does not have to disavow him, in order to give him Jewishness

But the adoption language with voice of heaven, that’s all throwback Akkadian. 

Can you be Jewish AND worship somebody other than strictly YHWH? (Because I think that’s what Jesus is doing. I think he’s parsing out the Yah from the H, and uses the I Am.)

The Jewish people at their temple in Elephantine did in the 6th C BCE. They worshipped YHW/Yahu  (no H) and also other deities.

And Herod the Great at a height of Second Temple Judaism built three temples to the Divine Augustus, which is like – did he go in?

Steefen said
Jesus was critical of orthodox Temple Judaism. That is not fringe at all. Anyone who has read the gospels knows the extent to which Jesus was critical of Temple Judaism.
 
Orthodox to Temple Judaism:
Jesus turned over tables and told his disciples the Temple would be destroyed.
And he had problems with the priesthood of the Temple.
He had problems with the Exodus.
He was not orthodox to Temple Judaism.
  

Yes, that’s fair. He would seem to have been a critic of Temple Judaism. That is even more broadly attested than his criticism of the Pharisees.

Of course, Orthodox Judaism does not practice Temple Judaism, and are more descended from the Pharisees of the 1st century, CE, so someone persuaded by the attestations of his criticism of the Pharisees would say that he would likely be an opponent of Orthodox Judaism.

But saying he was not an Orthodox Jew is akin to saying an American politician of the late 1700’s was not a Republican, when “being a Republican” was not a thing until 1854.

On the other hand, under the hypothesis that Jesus was not a historical figure, then Jesus would not actually be a critic of Temple Judaism, he would rather be a vehicle for gospel authors to present their critiques of Temple Judaism. 

Steefen said
Bruce
Jesus did not fit into the orthodoxy of Temple Judaism 27-33 CE.

Yes, what I said was fair to say remains fair to say.

Obviously when one says “an Orthodox Jew”, without qualification, one would not expect that to be understood as “the Temple Judaism as it stood a few decades before the destruction of the Temple by the Romans”, but if one specifies the orthodoxy of Temple Judaism of his time, I would agree that Jesus was rather among one of the strands of Judaism of the time that was critical of the Temple orthodoxy.

Indeed, I would agree with that more than you could consistently do, since a fictional character doesn’t actually have any theological positions, though they may be a vehicle for an author to portray a theological position.

His brother James, was not protected by the orthodoxy of Temple Judaism from being killed in 62 CE.
  

Here you seem to be arguing against yourself rather than against me, since a fictional character can’t have a brother be actually killed.