Is there actually any evidence that Jesus existed?  Are there reasons for thinking he was completely made up?  That  Jesus of Nazareth is actually a myth?

I have been providing a series of posts connected with the various books I’ve written for general audiences over the years and now I’ve arrived at my book Did Jesus Exist (HarperOne: 2011).  I wrote the book when “mythicism” was still kind of taking off and most people hadn’t heard about it.  I suppose most still haven’t heard about it, but lots of agnostics, atheists, skeptics, and general-internet-junkies have.  It was so unheard of at the time that my publisher (Harper) was not interested in publishing the book.  They wanted it to come out only digitally, since they were pretty sure that as many people would buy it as would buy a book that mounted the evidence that there really was a successful landing on the moon.

But after I wrote the book they decided it would be worth putting into print.  In the end, it got a lot of people ticked off, especially mythicists.  I was rather surprised to receive far more vitriolic email from  that side than I ever did (or have) from fudndamatalist Christians.  I think the harsh response was mainly because people on that side of things thought that since I was a critical scholar of the New Testament who was personally agnostic, I would agree with them that the whole thing was made up.

Yeah, well, I don’t.  Over the course of two posts I’ll extract portions from the Preface.  Here is part one.

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Every week I receive maybe two or three emails asking me whether Jesus existed as a human being.   When I started getting these emails, some years ago now, I thought the question was rather peculiar and I did not take it seriously.  Of course Jesus existed.  Everyone knows he existed.  Don’t they?

But the questions kept coming and soon I began to wonder:  why are there so many people asking?  My wonder only increased when I learned that I myself was being quoted in some circles – misquoted rather – as saying that Jesus never existed.  I decided to look into the matter.  As it turns out, to my surprise, there is an entire literature devoted to the question of whether or not there ever was a real man, Jesus.

I was surprised because I am trained as a scholar of the New Testament and early Christianity, and for thirty years I have written extensively on the historical Jesus, the Gospels, the early Christian movement, the history of the church’s first three hundred years.   Like all New Testament scholars, I have read literally thousands and thousands of books and articles in English and other European languages on Jesus, the New Testament, and early Christianity.  But I was almost completely unaware of this body of skeptical literature, except as a slight image on the very periphery of my vision.   As are most of my colleagues in this field of scholarship.

I should say here at the outset that none of this literature is written by the scholars trained in New Testament or early Christian studies teaching at the major, or even the minor, accredited theological seminaries, divinity schools, universities, or colleges of North America or Europe (or anywhere else in the world).  Of the thousands of early Christianity scholars who do teach at such schools, none of them, to my knowledge, has any doubts that Jesus existed.  But there is this other literature out there, some of it highly intelligent and well informed, that makes the case.

These sundry books and articles (not to mention websites) are of varying quality.  Some of them are at about the level of The Da Vinci Code for their passion for conspiracy and the shallow depth of their historical knowledge, not just of the New Testament and early Christianity, but of ancient religion generally and, even more broadly, the ancient world.  But there are a couple of bona fide scholars – not professors teaching religious studies in universities, but scholars nonetheless, and one of them, at least, with a PhD in the field of New Testament – who have taken this position and written about it.   Their books may not be known to most of the general public interested in questions related to Jesus, the Gospels, or the early Christian church, but they do occupy a noteworthy niche as a (very) small but (often) loud minority voice.  Once you tune in to this voice, you quickly learn just how persistent and vociferous it can be.

And the voice is being heard loud and clear in some places.  Even a quick Internet search reveals how influential such radical skepticism has been historically, and how rapidly it is spreading even now.  For decades it was the dominant view in countries such as the Soviet Union.  Yet more striking, it appears to be the majority view in some regions of the West today, including some parts of Scandinavia.

The authors of this skeptical literature understand themselves to be “mythicists” – that is, those who believe that Jesus is a “myth.”  Rarely do mythicists define what they mean by the term myth, a failure that strikes real scholars of religion as both unfortunate and highly problematic, since the term has come to mean many things over the years in technical scholarship.  When mythicists use the term they appear most often simply to mean a story that has no historical basis, a history-like narrative that in fact did not happen.  In this sense, Jesus is a myth because even though there are plenty of ancient stories told about him, they are not historical.  His life and teachings, instead, have been invented by early story tellers.  He never really lived.

Those who do not think Jesus existed are frequently militant in their views and remarkably adept at parrying counter-evidence that to the rest of the civilized world might seem completely compelling and even unanswerable.  But these writers have answers, and the smart ones among them need to be taken seriously, if for no other reason than to show why they cannot be right about their major contention.  The reality is, whatever else you may think about Jesus, he certainly did exist.  That is what this book will set out to demonstrate.

I hardly need to stress what I have already intimated, that this is the view of virtually every expert on the planet.   That in itself is not proof, of course.  Expert opinion is, at the end of the day, still opinion.  But why would you not want to know what experts have to say?   When you go to the dentist, do you want him to be an expert or not?  If you build a house, do you want a professional architect to draw up the plans, or your next door neighbor?  One might be tempted to say that in the case of the historical Jesus it is different, since, after all, we are just talking about history and without time machines experts have no more access to the past than anyone else.  That, however, is simply not true.  It may be the case that some of my students receive the bulk of their knowledge of the Middle Ages from “Monty Python and the Holy Grail,” but is that really the best place to turn?  So too, millions of people have acquired their “knowledge” about early Christianity – about Jesus, Mary Magdalene, the emperor Constantine, the Council of Nicea – from Dan Brown, estimable author of the aforementioned Da Vinci Code.  But is that, at the end of the day, such a wise choice?

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12 Comments

  1. petfield September 24, 2024 at 6:13 am

    Oh boy, mythicists do get upset with this one! 😂

  2. Patty September 24, 2024 at 11:13 am

    It’s funny this came up because the other day I was thinking about the existence of Jesus and Paul’s experience. 2 scriptures really brought it home for me.

    I was thinking about whether Paul saw Jesus with his own eyes, or he dreamed it, or had a vision. I really think he saw Jesus appear to him right in front of his face. There’s nothing in 1 Corinthians 15 that gives me the impression Paul dreamed it, and he points out the times he had a revelation. He didn’t say he had a revelation. He said Jesus appeared to him and lots of other people.

    As for the existence of Jesus, in 1 Thessalonians Paul says that the Jews killed Jesus, and their own prophets, and even drove him out. I think that’s pretty straightforward.

    People like Price and Carrier convolute the scriptures and cause mass confusion. I even thought the Jesus Myth had merit at one point, but no it really doesn’t. They go on and on about Josephus, saying he didn’t actually mention Jesus. As if that would erase the movement or somehow prove Jesus didn’t exist. It’s so weird how they go on about things.

  3. d3zd3z September 24, 2024 at 12:05 pm

    I wonder how much the mythicist view comes from a musunderstanding (or unwillingness to understand) the difference between a historical Jesus existing, and the accounts and how much the stories in the New Testament (and other sources) represent this actual person. Saying there was a real man, Jesus, isn’t the same thing as saying the resurrection, or the miracles happened. I certainly don’t have the background to know whether this man existed, but as Bart mentions here, I basically accept what most scholars say about this. I am more inclined to reject, as historical, accounts that involve miracles or magic, however.

    I wonder also, if there is concern that at least some Biblical scholars may have a bit of a bias toward assuming the existing of a historical person because of religious belief.

    • MichaelHenry September 27, 2024 at 8:17 am

      I agree with your post.

      I do think the idea of mythicism starts out as a rejection of the Christ of the New Testament, but the idea conflates the non-existence of this resurrected Christ figure with the actual, historical Jesus of Nazareth.

  4. Oscarh05 September 24, 2024 at 5:00 pm

    Hi Bart,
    Just a question. Do you have some blog where you write about how sin and like the sin theme was invented? Like how someone or some group invented the idea of sin and sinning against a god?

    • BDEhrman September 25, 2024 at 2:10 pm

      I have talked about the concept of “sin” a good bit on the blog, yes. You’ll probably find a bunch of posts by doing a word search.

    • rezubler September 25, 2024 at 4:06 pm

      Dr. Joseph Lam has a very good book titled “Patterns of Sin in the Hebrew Bible” that has excellent research on the various types of sin (yes, there were several distinct categories using different words for sin) and sin themes in the Hebrew Bible. …but the book ain’t cheap…(> $100)!

  5. mini1071 September 24, 2024 at 8:40 pm

    A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.

    Winston Churchill

  6. balivi September 26, 2024 at 4:39 am

    Dear Bart!

    Thank you for writing! I accept that there was a historical Jesus! I accept But I simply do not accept that the apostle Paul means Jesus when he writes that he is the Christ/anointed one! Does that sound mythical? I think not!
    I already wrote what I think. Everything is included.
    By.

  7. ExVangelical September 27, 2024 at 2:30 pm

    Dr. Ehrman,
    If Paul believed that Jesus was Yhwh, can we be reasonable to expect that would be found quoting Jesus to support doctrine, equally as often as he quotes the OT Yhwh for doctrine?

    Mythicists will say this is because the only Jesus Paul knew about was a non-historical Jesus made purely of vision.

    How do you explain Paul’s infamous refusal to depend upon the words of the NT Yhwh-manifest-in-the-flesh to anywhere near the same degree he depended upon the words of the OT Yhwh? Maybe he thought the incarnation actually disturbed some of god’s attributes, and thus Paul was probably leaning toward what we today call open-theism?

    Was Paul so irrational that he would knowingly disagree with Matthew and John and assign far less foundational significance to the historical Jesus’ teachings than those two original apostles did? With precious hindsight, it seems to me Paul would have realized such a plan was a disaster waiting to happen, since common sense forces the conclusion that the original apostles would have known the truth about Jesus far more comprehensively than whatever Paul could get from divine telepathy.

    • BDEhrman October 2, 2024 at 6:23 pm

      I”m not quite sure what you mean by your premise. Paul did not believe Jesus was YHWH or YHWH in teh flesh. YHWH for Paul was the God who sent Jesus into the world and then rewarded him at the exaltation. (see, e.g., Phil. 2:6-10).

  8. Miles September 28, 2024 at 12:19 pm

    Although they are almost certainly wrong about the existence of Jesus, much of the work put together by the mythicists is valuable, IMO, to show how widespread belief in Jesus’s resurrection and miracles occurred. Carrier, for all his flaws, makes a convincing case as to how myths can develop and spread very quickly. He makes a mistake, I believe, by using his findings to prove Jesus did not exists when what he really shows is why the myth of the resurrection of this very real human developed so quickly and became so widespread.

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