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Radical Skeptic (about the Bible) and Episcopal Bishop: John Spong

I'm with a group of travelers just now who are interested in critical approaches to the Bible (not views that are criticizing per se, but views that approach the Bible using historical methods -- "Biblical Criticism").  One of them - as usually happens - has asked me about the very popular writings of John Shelby Spong, who was an unusual figure in numerous ways, most famously because he was both highly skeptical about the reliability of the New Testament AND a long-time bishop in the Episcopal church.  How does that work? Well, work it did.  He had a deservedly huge following. Years ago I posted comments on a book he wrote near the end of his career on the Gospel of John, which takes an even more skeptical view of its reliability than I do.  But I realized I should first set the context for those of you who don't know who he was by re-posting my "Memorium" for him written soon after he died.  So here is that first, then my summary/discussion of his [...]

2026-06-04T08:37:10-04:00June 7th, 2026|Public Forum|

Did the Doctrine of Predestination Lead to Capitalism?

In my previous post I gave a brief overview of the doctrine of predestination, especially as developed by the great 16th century Protestant Reformer John Calvin and his followers.  I ended the post by indicating – surely this is a surprise for many people – that one of the most interesting and formative understandings of modern capitalism is that its has it can be traced back in its origins to Protestant views of predestination.  How does that work exactly? The key text is Max Weber, The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism, tr. Talcott Parsons (NY: Scribner, 1958; German original, 1920).  Weber (= VEY-ber) was an important German intellectual often credited as being the founder of modern Sociology as an academic discipline. He begins his book with an intriguing question about modern economic systems that, till then, had never posed: why [in his time, the early 20th century] are there more capitalist ventures, capitalists, and trained capitalist laborers in Protestant countries than in Catholic ones?  And in countries of mixed populations, why are there [...]

2026-05-28T15:51:58-04:00June 3rd, 2026|Public Forum|

Predestination! What do you think?

What do you think of the idea of predestination?  That only those who have been predestined by God (from eternity past) can be saved: but not anyone else. The doctrine can be found or at least intimated (possibly: depending on how you interpret them) in a few – though not many – passages of the Bible.  The following are three that seem the clearest (key words highlighted; these translations are from the NRSV ue):   Romans 8 28 We know that all things work together for good for those who love God, who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn within a large family.[s] 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.    Ephesians 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly [...]

2026-05-28T15:41:59-04:00June 2nd, 2026|Public Forum|

Did the Glories of Martyrdom Lead to Christian Conversions?

Some think that, in contrast to miracles & martyrdom, the fear of perpetual torment in hell may be what drove the early growth of Christianity. After all, who WOULDN'T want to avoid eternal fiery torture? Here’s what I said about that in my book Triumph of Christianity (Simon & Schuster) ****************************** I’ve indicated that fire and brimstone preaching won many converts in early Christianity.  What about the idea that the stalwart faith of Christian martyrs, the willingness to “die for the truth” had a big effect on ancient people as well?  As it turns out, those two were closely related. The horrors of hell may have been the argument for why people should convert, but it was the miracles that made the argument persuasive.  God had shown, and continues to show, what he could do to counteract the ravages of pain, misery, and suffering.  Anyone who refused to side with him now would pay a price later.   Or as one group of Christian martyrs is said to have proclaimed to the pagan hordes [...]

2026-05-25T18:36:16-04:00May 30th, 2026|Public Forum|

June 2026 Gold Q&A Announcement

Gold and Platinum Members, a new month is quickly approaching, which means it's time to schedule our next Q&A. It will take place on Sunday June 21st at 2pm Eastern. For May’s Q&A, we tried a new format, and your feedback was overwhelmingly positive. So we’re bringing it back again this month. Bart will spend the first half of our Zoom session answering your pre-submitted questions. As always, you can email your questions to [email protected]. Be sure to get your questions in by end of day Thursday June 18th. For the second half of the hour, we’ll be opening things up to live attendee participation, giving you the opportunity to ask Bart questions in real time on a specific topic. For June, Bart has chosen: The Letters of Paul If you’d like to participate in the live Q&A: Prepare your question in advance Make sure your question is specifically focused on the Gospels Keep your question to roughly 20 seconds or less Be ready to ask it live during the session Meeting Details: Zoom Link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81230541341?pwd=JT80bFn6uO6fOw2jBpHtjPNsC5itMz.1 [...]

2026-05-28T22:25:44-04:00May 29th, 2026|Public Forum|

The Fear of Hell as an Incentive to Convert

Miracles converted millions of people to the Christian faith in the ancient world.  What about the fear of hell? Here’s how I talk about it in my book Triumph of Christianity (Simon & Schuster) ****************************** One of the reasons stories of miracles proved so effective in making converts is that Christians combined them with the claim that God’s manifestation of power in the present foreshadowed what he would do in the future.  The present life may have been filled with pain and suffering: people were starving; they were afflicted with blindness, loss of hearing, paralysis, the ravages of disease, or abject poverty; they were attacked by hordes of evil demons.  Life could be, and for many it was, a wretched existence, a cesspool of misery.  But God’s miracle workers cured these ills.  They could multiply the supplies of food, cure the body’s deficiencies, heal any disease, and overpower the demons. Moreover, all that was merely a prelude to what was to come.  After this life humans could enter into a world of sheer [...]

2026-05-25T15:49:15-04:00May 28th, 2026|Public Forum|

Was Augustine Telling the Truth About Miracles He’d Seen?

Miracles seem to be everywhere in the early Christian literature, and it is striking how insistent all these ancient sources are it was precisely the wonder-working abilities of the Christians in the name of Christ and the Christian God that convinced potential converts to leave the religious traditions that nearly everyone around them had and had had for time immemorial to join this bizarre new faith in only one God who would provide salvation only to those who believed in the death and resurrection of Jesus. But that's the consistent testimony, and to cap it off I turn to Augustine, the greatest theologian in the history of Christianity, famous still today, incredibly learned, devout, and sincere, and not one who was prone to deception.  Augustine in fact wrote two treatises about lying, arguing that in NO circumstances, WHATSOEVER, was it EVER right to lie.  Not EVER. He too reports that Christians did miracles and more than that, he claims explicitly that he had seen a whole lot of them.  He gives some details. Here's what [...]

2026-05-22T12:18:46-04:00May 27th, 2026|Public Forum|

Christianity: A Weirdly Exclusivist Religion

In my previous post dealing with how Christianity managed to take over the Roman empire, I stressed its two highly unusual (and therefore -- to outsiders -- weird) aspects that in tandem ended up more or less destroying all the other religions:  their stress on evangelism and their insistence on exclusivity.  It's not that every Christian evangelized or that all Christians completely gave up all their other religious traditions, but enough did that it led to the Christianization of the West. Here I want to explain a bit more about how the virtually unparalleled exclusivity worked, again drawing on my book The Triumph of Christianity (Simon & Schuster). ****************************** One way to understand Christian exclusivity is to think about the Christians’ unusual approach to “choice.”   Of course everyone in the ancient world had to choose how to live, what to think, how to behave, and how to worship.   In fact, pagan religions in recent scholarship have been portrayed as a kind of “marketplace,” where “shoppers” would choose among competing options.  Just as you might choose to [...]

2026-05-09T11:32:12-04:00May 13th, 2026|Public Forum, Spread of Christianity|

Blog Dinner in Waynesville NC, May 19. Wanna Come?

I'll be in Waynesville NC next week and would love to have a blog dinner with anyone who can make it, on the evening of Tuesday May 19.   Interested? I'll probably start around 6:30 or so for drinks with whoever is interested in quenching thirst before satisfying hunger, with dinner at 7:15 or so.  Location TBD. You interested?  My plan is to limit the table to 8, me and the perfect number 7.   For those who come there are no obligations other than: Being a blog member Showing up Talking Paying for whatever you ingest.  (Whatever you exgest is free.) If you're interested, do NOT reply here as a comment.  Send along an email at [email protected]. Hope some of you can come!  

2026-05-09T11:25:09-04:00May 8th, 2026|Public Forum|

Jesus and Capitalism: My Next Book (A Big Change)

For over a year now I've been thinking and saying my next book would be on the formation of the New Testament canon -- how we got these 27 books and not others.  I definitely am going to write that book, but something else has come up that is going to occupy my time, brain, and research first. My publisher, now that Love They Stranger is out, has asked me to consider writing a book about Jesus and capitalism (and socialism and marxism etc.).  At first I was hesitant.  I'm obviously not an economist.  And there are plenty of books like that (look them up online).  BUT, not so much by New Testament scholars approaching the issue the way I would. So I'm gonna do it. Books like this take shape over time.  I never know exactly where my research will take me or what I will turn up that is hugely interesting but that I never thought about much before.  (Did you ever see that old Daffy Duck cartoon when he's rowing a [...]

2026-05-04T09:23:49-04:00May 7th, 2026|Public Forum|

Want To Be Involved in More In-Depth Discussion of Key Issues? A Blog Opportunity

Are you interested in going beyond reading blog posts on topics connected with the New Testament/early Christianity and in having a chance to interact with other blog members (and a New Testament scholar) on important and interesting topics or biblical passages? It is an option on the blog.  It involves joining a special group called the “Blog Stewards.” We meet once a quarter for a focused seminar.  In advance I pick a topic or important passage of the NT; I write up directions for how one might go about studying it; and I explain some of the lesser known background.  Then we get together remotely for an hour and a half and discuss it all. No one is required to do the “homework.”  Some members just want to sit and listen in while others talk.   Others want to bounce their ideas around. I run it as a seminar, much like I would a university course: I usually begin by making a brief presentation about some of the key issues and puzzling and/or debated [...]

2026-05-07T11:17:27-04:00May 6th, 2026|Public Forum|

A Common But Lousy Argument That We KNOW What the NT Originally Said: Anniversary Post #14

Scholars sometimes make an argument that they themselves surely (surely!) know isn't very good, but that certainly sounds convincing to audiences that don't know the full picture and so have little way of evaluating it.  I seem to run across that a lot.  Here in my 14th and final Anniversary Post celebrating the blog's fourteen years of mortal existence, I give one from the very first month of the blog, the final post of April 2012, which dealt with a particularly common instance of just such an argument. ****************************** I have had three debates with Dan Wallace (professor of New Testament at Dallas Theological Seminary and longtime friend) on the question of whether or not we can know for certain, or with relative reliability, whether we have the “original” text of the New Testament.   At the end of the day, my answer is usually “we don’t know.” For practical reasons, New Testament scholars proceed as if we do actually know what Mark wrote, or Paul, or the author of 1 Peter.   And if I had [...]

2026-04-30T21:56:53-04:00May 5th, 2026|New Testament Manuscripts, Public Forum|

Sailing Cruise to Caribbean Islands in January. Want to Come with Me?

I was so very sorry to announce that we will not be able to do the Cruise on the Nile we had planned for the fall, but Thalassa Journeys has now come up with an alternative that is, well -- how many ways can you say "spectacular?" It is a cruise on a sailing vessel to some of the most gorgeous islands of the Caribbean, January 25-February 1, 2027.  The ship, the Sea Cloud Spirit is amazing (just look it up): 136 passengers (our group will be a part of that), small enough to get into remote places the big cruisers cannot, and large enough to be, well, rather luxurious. There will be great sites, great vistas, fantastic food and drink, and friendly like-minded people in our group who will have intriguing stories and lives, and common interests to discuss to our hearts' content. I will be giving lectures on the cruise on one of my all-time favorite topics:  “The Greatest Manuscript Discoveries of Modern Times.”  Here I will talk about archaeological finds that have revolutionized [...]

2026-05-04T15:03:29-04:00May 3rd, 2026|Public Forum|

May 2026 Gold Q&A Announcement: We’re Trying Something New!

Happy May, Gold & Platinum Members! We’re trying something a little new with our monthly Gold Q&A, which is set to take place on Wednesday May 13th at 7pm Eastern. (Find full details on how to join below.) As always, you’ll still have the opportunity to submit questions for Bart in advance via email, and he’ll spend the first half of our Zoom session answering a selection of those pre-submitted questions. As always, you can email your questions to [email protected]. Be sure to get your questions in by end of day Monday May 11th. For the second half of the hour, we’ll be opening things up to live attendee participation, giving members the opportunity to ask Bart questions in real time on a specific topic. For May, Bart has chosen: The Gospels If you’d like to participate in the live Q&A: Prepare your question in advance Make sure your question is specifically focused on the Gospels Keep your question to roughly 20 seconds or less Be ready to ask it live during the session Our hope [...]

2026-05-04T14:34:31-04:00May 1st, 2026|Public Forum|

Nile Cruise: Cancellation

In mid-March I announced on the blog that I would be doing a cruise on the Nile (and seeing other interesting parts of Egypt) later in the year.  I am sorry to say that because of the situation in the Middle East, we have decided to cancel the trip.  Or rather, cosmic forces willing, to postpone it.  I very much want to do it ... sometime down the road when potential travellers will be more inclined to go to the region. BUT, I will be doing another trip in its place.  To the Caribbean.  Whoa.  It'll be a good one.  I'll give the details in my next post. For now, the Nile cruise has been canceled.

2026-04-28T23:07:11-04:00May 1st, 2026|Public Forum|

Active Pastors Who Have Lost Their Faith: Anniversary Post #11

Here's a post that covers a topic many of you may have wondered about, others of you have asked me about, and yet others of you may never have much thought about! Pastors in the pulpit who are no longer believers. Whoa. This is Anniversary Post #11, from April 2023. ****************************** Are you curious about Christian Pastors who have lost their faith? You may not know this, but if you’re in a Christian church – whether it’s a traditional Roman Catholic church, Episcopalian, Southern Baptist, Independent-Bible-Thumping-Fire-and Brimstone-Fundamentalist – your priest/pastor may be losing his/her faith, or already lost it.  And yet still be in the pulpit.  There are some times when you might suspect something was up.  Other times, you’d have no clue. I’ve been there, on both sides of that equation.  I won’t talk about the loss of faith on the part of pastors who were preaching in front of me every week.  But I can say something about myself, in the pulpit, desperately trying to hold on to my faith, and seeing it [...]

2026-04-24T10:28:14-04:00April 28th, 2026|Public Forum|

The Seven Sleepers of Ephesus: Platinum Post by Douglas Wadeson, MD

Now here's a post on an intruiging topic involving an amusing tale that roughly no one  has heard of.  But Platinum Member Doug Wadeson has looked into it:  here we can all learn something of interest.... ****************************** I have spent most of my life going to various churches and yet I never heard the story of the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus. Have you? It is an old Christian tale which is set in the year 250 CE (AD). However, I first learned of it in the Qur’an! Muhammad makes reference to the story in chapter (sura) 18 entitled The Cave. Muhammad often borrows stories from the Jews and Christians, so it is not unusual for him to use this story as well. I’ll get to his version in a bit. Here is the story as cited in the Catholic Encyclopedia of 1913: --- The story is this: Decius (249-251) once came to Ephesus to enforce his laws against Christians — a gruesome description of the horrors he made them suffer follows — here he found [...]

2026-04-23T10:07:06-04:00April 27th, 2026|Public Forum|

May 2026 Platinum Webinar Announcement

One of the benefits of being a Platinum member of the blog is an invitation to attend Bart’s quarterly lectures. These lectures offer an opportunity to go deeper into topics that don’t always make their way into regular posts and to pick Bart's brain on the topic during the Q&A. The next lecture will be on the Gospel of Thomas. It's a text that has long intrigued scholars and readers alike. Bart is looking forward to diving into it with you. Details: Date: Sunday, May 24, 2026 Time: 3:00 pm Eastern Link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82670328885?pwd=OLFAJwJltQl36WUOsTBgP0BX33XvA9.1 Meeting ID: 826 7032 8885 Passcode: 725078 As always, I will send the replay out after the event for those who cannot make it live. Hope to see you there! - Jen

2026-04-23T22:54:10-04:00April 24th, 2026|Public Forum|

Different Words, VERY Different Theologies, and Understanding Which Words They Were. Readers’ Questions

Here are several recent questions I have received that are oddly (and by serendipity) closely related to each other and connected with knowing the New Testament writings said and meant.   QUESTION: Don’t you think NT scholars need to stop calling people raised from the dead back to mortality “resuscitations” (e.g., those in 1 Kgs, 2 Kgs, various NT scenes, and Hellenistic traditions)? These aren’t resuscitations (from an almost dead state), they are real “resurrections” from a truly dead state! NT scholarship has co-opted the word “resurrection” to mean raised from the dead back to immortality, but that’s not what that term means, it just means raised from the dead. In truth, Jesus was both resurrected AND made immortal, and one needs to explain why Jesus’ followers thought both of these things about Jesus.   RESPONSE: I'd say it's tricky to come up with words that have the precision the ideas do.  The virtue of reserving "resurrection" for the idea of being "raised to immortality" (that is, be brought back to life never [...]

2026-04-20T20:43:01-04:00April 23rd, 2026|Public Forum, Reader’s Questions|

Bad Bible Jokes. (And do you have any?)

I’m visiting my daughter and her family up in New Hampshire just now, and the 16 year-old is reading A Children’s Bible, a novel by Pulitzer Prize finalist Lydia Millet, for her English class.  But it’s filled with biblical allusions from the book of Genesis and elsewhere, so over dinner last night I decided it was time to tell some Bible jokes. You hear a lot of these if you go to Bible college, trust me.  And maybe otherwise!  Here are four of the classics.  Do you have any?  Let’s hear ‘em.   Where is baseball first mentioned in the Bible? “In the Big Inning” Where is tennis first mentioned in the Bible? “Joseph served on Pharaoh’s court” Who was the first constipated person in the Bible? “Cain. Because he wasn’t Abel.” (I didn’t tell this last one because I thought it probably required to much background/knowledge to be funny) (I’m assuming it’s funny…): Who was the smallest person in the Bible? There are a variety of possible answers. The wrong ones would [...]

2026-04-20T20:36:01-04:00April 22nd, 2026|Public Forum|
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